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Old 10-26-2019, 04:31 PM
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Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom Shadowlands - The Official Thread

Welcome to the official thread for WOW's 8th expansion!
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:48 PM
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Old 11-01-2019, 01:17 PM
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Call me crazy, but for the first time ever, I find myself not interested in any of the features of an expansion.

It's not even disappointment, it's apathy. But there's still the panels, so let's wait and see if I find something to look forward. I have no feelings towards the lands or creatures, and there's no features I was looking forward to.

Oh, there was a disappointment, actually. Sylvanas beating the Lich King? That was disappointing.


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Ok, two tidbits now called my attention:

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JOURNEY THROUGH A NEW LEVELING EXPERIENCE — Level up your next hero through a fully revamped 1–50 experience where every level is meaningful , then advance to the new level cap of 60 in the Shadowlands.
Fully revamped? Does this mean the world is revamped and the quests are new? Or it's just gameplay revamp?

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Improved Character Customisation Options: A host of new appearance options for all races will be made available to players when they create new World of Warcraft characters (or alter existing ones at the in-game barber shop).
About damn time! Now you got my attention.
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:22 PM
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The Cinematic was awful like the last xpc's. It has focused too much on the actual fights, the lines and characterizations were terrible other than the beginning. WotLK's was 10 times better than it.

Will we see Arthas back?
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:31 PM
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It looks great, but yeah; a bit jarring with Sylvanas' power level.

As for the revamped leveling experience. I doubt it's a full World Revamp, maybe I am wrong? If we did get one, wouldn't it have been shown during the features trailer? I suppose we will find out in What's Next.

So far, Shadowlands looks cool.
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:21 PM
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Looks like Deicide might finally get to play a high elf.
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:30 PM
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Looks like Deicide might finally get to play a high elf.
Did I misheard, or did Ion say this is coming only for the "original" races?

(With my luck, they'll give blue eyes to blood elves and pretend they listened.)
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:35 PM
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Did I misheard, or did Ion say this is coming only for the "original" races?

(With my luck, they'll give blue eyes to blood elves and pretend they listened.)
I think it was for all races.

If it is only for core races, you might be out of luck. Yeah.
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:36 PM
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I wonder if we'll finally be getting troll beards?

It would be nice to finally be able to play a high elf on the horde(with blue eyes).

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Old 11-01-2019, 05:06 PM
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Old 11-01-2019, 05:54 PM
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The new Shadowlands page says we have a brand new 1-10 experience before you can choose an expansion to level 10-50.

I wonder how this experience it is? Are the racial starting zones updated?
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Old 11-01-2019, 06:15 PM
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That looked promising, but then... Previews for four generic zones that don't look like "Shadowlands" at all?

I mean, new place, whatever, and it's full of new civilized races and factions? The hell? The Shadowlands should have been empty, full of savage beasts, or full of dead echoes from races of ancient past, not just a bunch of generic new guys which could belong pretty much anywhere in the universe.

I mean, what's the point?

Whatever, I don't know. I was looking forward to a "continent of the dead" kind of thing, yet it's the same thing as Pandaria and Broken Isles again; which don't get me wrong, it made sense there (we could argue Broken Isles weren't what was depicted in the first place, but still), but here? Imagine getting an Emerald Dream or an Elemental Planes expansion and it's just full of the same races from the surface. It's just lame.
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Frostmourne. This at least he knew, and intimately. The sword whirled end over end, as if Arthas has tossed it into the air. A second sword rose to meet it—long, inelegant but powerful, with the symbol of a skull embedded in its fearsome blade. A name—“Ashbringer,” a sword and yet more than a sword, as was Frostmourne. The two clashed—
Remember this in RotLK?

This vision has not been shown in reality yet, maybe we will see it.
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Old 11-01-2019, 07:11 PM
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Remember this in RotLK?

This vision has not been shown in reality yet, maybe we will see it.
That was so long ago Blizzard has probably forgotten it.
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That was so long ago Blizzard has probably forgotten it.
But if they bring it up, it can be pretty interesting.
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Old 11-01-2019, 07:20 PM
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New characters of all races will start in a zone in Stormheim, do the 1-10 new level experience and then choose an expansion to level up.

That sounds so lame.
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Old 11-01-2019, 07:59 PM
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Did I misheard, or did Ion say this is coming only for the "original" races?

(With my luck, they'll give blue eyes to blood elves and pretend they listened.)
Only the original races! I hope Ion will fulfill his promise to give blue eyes to the blood elves
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:12 PM
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I'm not feeling the Shadowlands at all. Hopefully the deep dive panel tomorrow will clarify some things regarding the level squish, but i anticipate that it will create a whole slew a problems, especially with the hero classes.

ALL races getting a new 1-10 experience seems like an incredibly lazy way to get around updating the starting zones for some of the older races (e.g. Blood Elves and Draenei).

I'm gonna bet that we're gonna get a lot of lore contradictions with this expansion.
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:20 PM
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So Wildhammer Dwarves and Dark Forest Trolls are gonna be reduced to a mere "skin" option?
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https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1190414712846061571

New characters of all races will start in a zone in Stormheim, do the 1-10 new level experience and then choose an expansion to level up.

That sounds so lame.
Wait, what? No revamp for the old starter zones - they're just going to funnel everyone into one tiny zone?

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So Wildhammer Dwarves and Dark Forest Trolls are gonna be reduced to a mere "skin" option?
Better that than none at all, but I would have liked them to have gotten unique racials.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:09 AM
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Levels 1-10: A New Journey for New Players
New characters will embark on an introductory voyage to learn about everything there is to do in Azeroth, including your first mini-dungeon.

Levels 10-50: Pick Your Era
Play the latest expansion, Battle for Azeroth, or follow Chromie back in time and tackle any other expansion you choose, with challenges that scale to characters level 10–50.

Levels 50-60: Enter the Shadowlands
Step into Azeroth’s afterlife, and stand shoulder-to-shoulder with legends of the past as you fight to preserve the universe.


Wait what?

They are finally adressing the outdated lore status of the older expansions via Time Travel? Hm... ok.

And I guess since they make the current "Old Azeroth" redundant in the leveling process, they might wanna use a revamped version for future higher level content after Shadowlands. (Most likely step by step.)
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:14 AM
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...my poor, poor Scourge.

Why do they insist on continuing to make the Scourge into something they're not.

They were a weapon forged by Kil'jaeden & Tichondrius in order to subjugate the mortal forces of Azeroth in order to make it easier for the Burning Legion to invade Azeroth. They rebelled because of Arthas, Kel'thuzad and Ner'zhul wanting independence and autonomy. This is such a basic concept for a race and they've made it SO complicated.

Now the Scourge are like... tied to some other dimension, and Sylvanas discovered it, and the Helm of Domination that contained Ner'zhul's spirit

What even is this.

I'm SORT of excited about some elements of this expansion. I'm kind of intrigued how they're going to do the new leveling experience... (I hope there's SOME new elements at least in old world Azeroth, so we can get a sense for the current world state).

But boy do I hate where they've taken the Scourge. This wasn't even necessary I don't think.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:17 AM
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I really hope they don't pull off an Illidan on Arthas.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:30 AM
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...my poor, poor Scourge.



Now the Scourge are like... tied to some other dimension, and Sylvanas discovered it, and the Helm of Domination that contained Ner'zhul's spirit

What even is this.

But boy do I hate where they've taken the Scourge. This wasn't even necessary I don't think.
Yea, her splitting the Helm made no sense that it shattered reality and opened the Shadowlands. The only point was "Always a LK" was to keep the Scourge from just washing over Azeroth. Even if it being a Legion item and had some other purpose, it breaking and doing what it did just....came out of no where.

I'm leaning more towards excited for the xpac, but that tidbit left me going "....wat"
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:55 AM
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Like I said on Discord, for several reasons I see Shadowlands as Legion 2.0 and I'm very hyped.

I'm also very hyped for the upcoming city of Oribos. It sounds like a really cool concept.
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