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Old 11-22-2014, 09:10 PM
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Default Comprehensive Guide to WoD Cut/Changed Content

So I'm looking to get a general run down of what was cut or changed in WoD. We've talked about this a lot as we watched development go on with the expansion. Would like folks to help contribute, especially with some sort of evidence backing things up.

I think it might be useful to have the thread around just to see in the future what's cut from other future expansions and such. I like knowing what didn't make it in the game or almost made it in during development but was scrapped, but I don't like having to jump between several different WoD threads to find that info either.

So if you know anything, please contribute!
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:16 PM
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Being able to choose which zone to put your Garrison.

Changing some Iron Horde related quests, so people dont have orc fatigue.

Edit: How can I forget :'(...

Ogre Land probably wont appear during WoD
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:27 PM
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The ones I can think of:

-Pre-expansion world event drastically scaled down from original plans
-Garrison building specialization
-Complete re-design of Shadowmoon, Gorgrond and Nagrand (at least, those are the ones we have the most evidence for) during development
-Movable garrisons
-Garrisons have more plots (originally it was 3 large, 3 medium and 4 small)
-Trial of the Gladiator
-Karabor and Bladespire as capital cities
-Karabor's interior
-Orgrim's full storyline
-Worgen curse storyline
-Caverns of Time content
-Infinite Dragonflight storyline/Chronal Spire
-Shattrath raid
-Farahlon
-Southern Draenor Island

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Old 11-22-2014, 09:33 PM
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Tanaan Jungle was totally pushed back from launch.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:31 PM
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I just remembered we were going to have the Red Mist explained.

I think there were supposed to be an ogre navy or ogre pirates in Nagrand as well.

Oh and the Bonechewer Clan was basically cut out of the expansion, as well, and were supposed to be one of the few clans under Gul'dan's control. Tagar Spinebreaker still shows up in the Tomb of Souls. However, it looks like Hurkan Skullsplinter was intended at one point - http://www.wowhead.com/npc=77598 - but never made it in game.

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Old 11-23-2014, 12:51 AM
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There's a chest named Bonechewer Remnants in the Shadow Council orc town in Talador as well.
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:48 AM
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Wish they cut the amount of goblin quests....
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Old 11-25-2014, 07:42 AM
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The ones I can think of:

-Pre-expansion world event drastically scaled down from original plans
-Garrison building specialization
-Complete re-design of Shadowmoon, Gorgrond and Nagrand (at least, those are the ones we have the most evidence for) during development
-Movable garrisons
-Garrisons have more plots (originally it was 3 large, 3 medium and 4 small)
-Trial of the Gladiator
-Karabor and Bladespire as capital cities
-Karabor's interior
-Orgrim's full storyline
-Worgen curse storyline
-Caverns of Time content
-Infinite Dragonflight storyline/Chronal Spire
-Shattrath raid
-Farahlon
-Southern Draenor Island
Can anyone explain to me what these 2 would of detailed?
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:14 AM
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Can anyone explain to me what these 2 would of detailed?
orgrim saw visions of us nd the world burning , so believes we`re evil , then realises it was the iron horde fault

and the worgen thing was they were beginning to lose their minds again, so tess greymane asks for help finding a new cure (wich was changed to the Fiona stuff, wich made no sense)
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:30 AM
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and the worgen thing was they were beginning to lose their minds again, so tess greymane asks for help finding a new cure (wich was changed to the Fiona stuff, wich made no sense)
The Fiona stuff was always there in Beta, as far as I saw when I was in it. So that "storyline" never changed much.

The change was that evidently Yrel was getting help from the worgen to track someone down, but she didn't trust them which then led into the "Genn is sick and the worgen are turning feral again and the only cure is a plant that only exists in Draenor (it exists in Outland but is corrupted)."

But Blizz said at BlizzCon that it may come back in the future.

The Orgrim change made no sense, even when you play as Horde. He suddenly goes from heel to face in the space of nothing and it ends up very jarring.

But then again, the whole Shatt thing was very jarring after the IH were kicked out.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:59 AM
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The Orgrim change made no sense, even when you play as Horde. He suddenly goes from heel to face in the space of nothing and it ends up very jarring.

But then again, the whole Shatt thing was very jarring after the IH were kicked out.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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I would like to order a respectable raid instance with at least 12 bosses.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:40 PM
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:46 PM
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I'm fairly certain the lack of dailies and flying count as they have visible consequences for the world at large (nothing to do and taking forever to do it).
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:45 AM
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I just wish I could understand why they thought it was a good development decision to change Gorgrond but then not change Orgrim's story. So much about WoD's later development makes me wonder what the devs were even doing the last 2 months of the Beta.
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:31 AM
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whatever happeed to the alliance chopper?
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:32 AM
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Taken out back and Ol' Yeller'd.
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:33 AM
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Taken out back and Ol' Yeller'd.
I vaguely remember a blue post about it not being alliancy enough and something about redoing It, but it was long enough ago I draw a blan k
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:35 AM
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I vaguely remember a blue post about it not being alliancy enough and something about redoing It, but it was long enough ago I draw a blan k
Yes to alliance-y enough, no to it being redone.

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Old 11-26-2014, 09:40 AM
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Y'rel was heavily changed too with her backstory and her relationship with Maraad. If anyone remembers the old sound files between her and Maraad, they seemed to show that Maraad once knew Y'rel in the MU, maybe as a lover or as a sister or something. I think it was implied that Y'rel may have been Garona's mother in the MU.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:42 AM
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Y'rel was heavily changed too with her backstory and her relationship with Maraad. If anyone remembers the old sound files between her and Maraad, they seemed to show that Maraad once knew Y'rel in the MU, maybe as a lover or as a sister or something. I think it was implied that Y'rel may have been Garona's mother in the MU.
That was never implied. That was always just speculation. It would make no sense for Yrel to be Maraad's sister while simultaneously having a romantic relationship. I really doubt Blizzard was intending to write an incestuous relationship.


Also, there is no apostrophe in Yrel. stahp.
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:55 AM
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That was never implied. That was always just speculation. It would make no sense for Yrel to be Maraad's sister while simultaneously having a romantic relationship. I really doubt Blizzard was intending to write an incestuous relationship.


Also, there is no apostrophe in Yrel. stahp.
I never said they were in an incestuous relationship. Not sure how you picked that up. The voice files implied some sort of close relationship - either as losers or as siblings. Not both. It was never specified as far I know, I think we only had the voice files to speculate on.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:13 AM
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i still don't understand the in the light we are one thing.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:32 AM
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I never said they were in an incestuous relationship. Not sure how you picked that up. The voice files implied some sort of close relationship - either as losers or as siblings. Not both. It was never specified as far I know, I think we only had the voice files to speculate on.
I never said you said they were, I was stating that given what we know, the idea that they were originally planned to be siblings is absurd. Originally, Yrel called Maraad "my love" in those voice files you're citing, that would indicate to me she wasn't his sister (and therefore not related to Garona in any way). It was pretty clearly a romantic relationship, before it was scrapped.

Not to mention Garona's presence in WOD wouldn't make much sense, either.


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i still don't understand the in the light we are one thing.
I'm pretty sure it's a reference to Velen's final message you find at Karabor, where he tells you about K'ara and the Light.

"Remember: Life is the Light, and the Light is life itself. They may be exchanged, but nothing is ever lost."


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Old 11-26-2014, 11:43 AM
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i still don't understand the in the light we are one thing.
What's to understand, its just some religious talk.

"In the force, we are one."
"In the khala, we are one."

Etc, etc.

And like Cosmic said, may be a reference to that.

I think though that it was just Maraad's way of saying that even in death he'll be with her.
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