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Old 02-22-2018, 09:38 PM
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Multi race Kor'kron FeelsGoodMan. Though they could update the tabard.
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:43 PM
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Red Queen: The Red Queen will not allow adventurers into Uldim (says Uldim here, not Uldir) until they have been cleansed of corruption. First, they must pass through her decontamination chamber.
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:22 AM
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There are Zandalari paladins in Zuldazar, but they "don't have any openings."
Has anyone tried to see if she says something else to Paladins? "Not having any openings" doesn't really mean much in itself since new starting zones tend to have proper storylines. For all we know Zandalari Paladins could be pretty high up the totem pole (compare and contrast to the Goblin players or Demon Hunters) or simply be longstanding members of the organization. They take trolls "gifted from birth", that sounds like they recruit rather young.

I'm giving Blizzard too much credit, aren't i.

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Old 02-23-2018, 02:06 AM
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it's a Resident Evil movie reference
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:53 AM
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More Cleaned Up Data from Wowhead.

http://de.wowhead.com/news=282153/bu...dates-spoilers
Burning of Teldrassil Broadcast Text Updates (Spoilers)

http://de.wowhead.com/news=282151/ba...-healing-azero
Warfronts Insults, Healing Azeroth

The Sylvanas ""The Horde's children, and their children's children, will curse our memories as they burn" dialogue has been completly changed.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:30 AM
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I love it!!! oculeth in zuldazar!!!He is the one who has the portals open! I'm happy to see the nightborne helping and see important characters !!
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:39 AM
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WoD's mistake was being a shit expansion. We can take assets from it freely that aren't crap. The AU conceit itself was not a bad one. The mis-handling and abandonment of the expansion halfway through development was what made the expansion so crap.
Sorry, but I must disagree.

AU should be closed off and forgotten. It's a source for nothing but confusion whenever you stop to think about consistency beyond the superficial level.

Sure, Blizzard can skip all the questions about duplicate characters (from orcs to Draenei and even Naaru), AU/MU versions of famous characters, why aren't people from Outland moving there, what happens to AU timeline (including AU Azeroth) now that the Legion (which is a single entity for all universes) has been banquished (I mean, AU is in the past!), but it's a glaring rip in the fabric of lore (which is already full of holes) and such things need to be fixed or they'll only grow.

Also, these orcs being AU is an even worse decision when we have the Mag'har in MU, which are also pure orcs comprised of many clans that may have preserved many old traditions, and thus could have all the same customization options the AU orcs have with two bonuses: no continuity snarl and allowing us to get much-needed news from Outland.

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I love it!!! oculeth in zuldazar!!!He is the one who has the portals open! I'm happy to see the nightborne helping and see important characters !!
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image...Zuldazar14.jpg
I like details like that.

Any news from Boralus? I hope it has a good and varied racial presence, but I fear it will be just kul tirans everywhere...
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:34 AM
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Sorry, but I must disagree.

AU should be closed off and forgotten. It's a source for nothing but confusion whenever you stop to think about consistency beyond the superficial level.

Sure, Blizzard can skip all the questions about duplicate characters (from orcs to Draenei and even Naaru), AU/MU versions of famous characters, why aren't people from Outland moving there, what happens to AU timeline (including AU Azeroth) now that the Legion (which is a single entity for all universes) has been banquished (I mean, AU is in the past!), but it's a glaring rip in the fabric of lore (which is already full of holes and , and such things need to be fixed or they'll only grow.

Also, these orcs being AU is an even worse decision when we have the Mag'har in MU, which are also pure orcs comprised of many clans that may have preserved many old traditions, and thus could have all the same customization options the AU orcs have with two bonuses: no continuity snarl and allowing us to get much-needed news from Outland.



I like details like that.

Any news from Boralus? I hope it has a good and varied racial presence, but I fear it will be just kul tirans everywhere...
Zuldazar seems more multiracial
http://www.wowhead.com/news=282154/e...ub-in-zuldazar
boralus is more human centric
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/#image=Boralus:1
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:29 AM
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The thing is: WoWHead covers the area of Zuldazar that works as the Horde embassy, not the entirety of Zuldazar. Outside of that area, it's less multiracial. Edit: Seems like I'm wrong, Zandalar's port also has a lot of flavor.

MMO-C, in the other hand, covers larger areas of both cities.

I'd like to see more of the Alliance embassy in Boralus.

Only image I could find with actual Alliance presence were these:
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image.../Boralus21.jpg
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image.../Boralus34.jpg
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:53 AM
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it's a Resident Evil movie reference
I see. In that case, a neat coincidence nonetheless.
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:13 AM
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Honestly while conceptually I've no problem with utilizing AU Draenor stuff, the orcs there are predominantly more villainous than even the worst MU clans. With the exception of the Frostwolves and Laughing Skulls, the AU orcs not only did all that awful stuff under Grommash, but then dumped him to join the Burning Legion despite Garrosh warning them about the demons. So even if Grommash himself was "redeemed" (which was bullshit anyway), the rest were his enemies as well by then, and they didn't even have the excuse of being tricked or enslaved.

Those clans are outright, willful bad guys who started out bad and then elected to become even worse. The Horde shouldn't want anything to do with them.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:14 AM
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Here's another, http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=135976/morwin-gladeheart, and you can see the quests 47 minutes in.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/231866360

The quest chain seems incomplete, but Kul Tiran humans have Druids. In Drustvar. And now I'm thinking of just how interesting it could be if they were involved in the main plot. Wouldn't they be the first that witch hunters would point their torches at, with spooky shit going on in the woods and animals acting up?

You could learn more about whatever ancient practices they have, whatever connection it might have to the Drust, and they could perhaps offer novel ways of countering Drust magic after you help them avoid the lynch mob.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:16 AM
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The thing is: WoWHead covers the area of Zuldazar that works as the Horde embassy, not the entirety of Zuldazar. Outside of that area, it's less multiracial. Edit: Seems like I'm wrong, Zandalar's port also has a lot of flavor.

MMO-C, in the other hand, covers larger areas of both cities.

I'd like to see more of the Alliance embassy in Boralus.

Only image I could find with actual Alliance presence were these:
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image.../Boralus21.jpg
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image.../Boralus34.jpg
Boralus looks unfinished for now, less NPC's than Zuldazar. There's a part of it that has Gilnean flags so there might be some Alliance presence there.

Also lol @ AU Orcs being an allied race. Say what ya'll want about Void Elves, but this is an infinitely worse idea. Worst part is I bet they'll say all the MU Mag'har died as Garrosh loyalists just to have us pull from AU nonsense.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:51 AM
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Boralus looks unfinished for now, less NPC's than Zuldazar. There's a part of it that has Gilnean flags so there might be some Alliance presence there.
I think the flags are just placeholders.

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By the way, I decided to check if Realm Pop updated its data. There's this weird 0.5% (1.1% at lvl 110) players with unknown race/faction now.

I think the algorithm wasn't updated to reckognize the allied races. If so, this percentage may be the total population of all allied race characters.

Of course, I'm not sure about that, and we don't know when the data was collected (if closer to Jan 30th or to now), but it's a pretty small population...

https://realmpop.com/us.html
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:27 PM
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The thing is: WoWHead covers the area of Zuldazar that works as the Horde embassy, not the entirety of Zuldazar. Outside of that area, it's less multiracial. Edit: Seems like I'm wrong, Zandalar's port also has a lot of flavor.

MMO-C, in the other hand, covers larger areas of both cities.

I'd like to see more of the Alliance embassy in Boralus.

Only image I could find with actual Alliance presence were these:
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image.../Boralus21.jpg
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image.../Boralus34.jpg
I've got to say that I'm really impressed with what I've seen of Zandalar so far. Everything does a great job of introducing you to and teaching you about their culture, keeping the themes fairly tight while having some neat variety. They've even got the Monkey King hanging out.

Has anyone done a full exploration of Boralus yet?
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:29 PM
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I love it!!! oculeth in zuldazar!!!He is the one who has the portals open! I'm happy to see the nightborne helping and see important characters !!
https://media.mmo-champion.com/image...Zuldazar14.jpg
Undercity portal? Hmm.
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:03 PM
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http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=130122/speaker-iknal

Dark Trolls are officially a thing. All tribes of Trolls are on Zandalar. Every single one. Even the Shatterspear make an appearance.

http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=130122/speaker-iknal
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:29 PM
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http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=130122/speaker-iknal

Dark Trolls are officially a thing. All tribes of Trolls are on Zandalar. Every single one. Even the Shatterspear make an appearance.
Now that is exciting. Good to see that dark trolls aren't extinct after all.

Though I'm pretty surprised to hear about the Shatterspear, given that Blizzard basically said that the tribe as an entity ceased to exist in Cata.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12405830492
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The death of their chieftain was the final chapter in Shatterspear tribal history. As their former leader fell to the might of the Alliance heroes, the remnants of the tribe escaped retribution and went their separate ways. Some of these refugees found shelter within the Horde, while others joined various organizations.
EDIT: Looking at WowDB's list, it doesn't look like every tribe is represented. I don't see any Amani, Shadowglen, or Shadowpine speakers (though it's admittedly possible that the latter two aren't actually real tribes).
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Undercity portal? Hmm.
Yeah I don't like that.
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:53 PM
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it doesn't look like every tribe is represented. I don't see any Amani, Shadowglen, or Shadowpine speakers (though it's admittedly possible that the latter two aren't actually real tribes).
Amani got Tal'Aman. Gurubashi got Tal'Gurub. Sandfury have Tal'Farrak. Is there a Tal'Drak anywhere too?
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Amani got Tal'Aman. Gurubashi got Tal'Gurub. Sandfury have Tal'Farrak. Is there a Tal'Drak anywhere too?
Yeah, but the Drakkari, Gurubashi, and Sandfury also have emissaries in addition to those locations, unlike the Amani.

http://beta.wowdb.com/npcs/130014-speaker-malakaraz
http://beta.wowdb.com/npcs/130113-gurubashi-speaker
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:22 PM
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Yeah I don't like that.
Possibilities

1. Place holder (for what?)

2. Phasing time-fuckery so that Horde can still use it even though canonically they no longer control it

3. Blizzard won't commit to territorial changes and the expansion is gonna suck
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:26 PM
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http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=130122/speaker-iknal

Dark Trolls are officially a thing. All tribes of Trolls are on Zandalar. Every single one. Even the Shatterspear make an appearance.

http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=130122/speaker-iknal
good!! That dark troll looks great!
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:29 PM
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Isn't there a way to visit the Alliance counterpart and confirm if there's a Teldrassil portal?

If Blizzard goes back on the whole territorial changes, this shit is gonna suck hard(er).
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:54 PM
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It is most likely there for gameplay reasons. Blizz likely remembers how basically everyone still used the Vale's capital cities during WoD because of how shit Ashran was in terms of getting around the game, thus dividing the playerbase even more. They probably don't want that again.
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