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View Poll Results: What's her secret?
KJ's daughter 11 47.83%
One of the Eredar twins 3 13.04%
Random MU Eredar who becomes a bland AU Light Messiah 9 39.13%
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:15 AM
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Default Yrel's dark secret

Let's re-open the unholy chest and speculate what was her original purpose.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:20 AM
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If the raped thing was supposed to be that's kinda awkward. My favorite theory is that she was Archis or KJ daughter.

The eredar twins have names so that theory is pretty stupid.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:27 AM
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Let's re-open the unholy chest and speculate what was her original purpose.
I'd like to open her unholy chest if you know what I mean.

Alright, on topic: it was probably just a question of her heritage, so the whole "Kil'jaeden's daughter" angle is what I'd guess.

But we'll (probably) never revisit AU Draenor again, so we'll never know.
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:38 AM
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The eredar twins have names so that theory is pretty stupid.
To be fair, Othar/Socrethar in WoD and Rakeesh in Legion do reveal a precedent for some draenei assuming new names when they become man'ari.

Still doesn't seem especially likely in her case, though.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:04 AM
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I used to think that maybe she was an eredar when she was born and then somehow got purified by Velen/Naaru, or was somewhat tainted for one reason or another(maybe her mother was tainted herself while she was giving birth, or was was raped by Yrel's supposed demon father).
Now I think it's more likely that she was meant to be Kil'jaeden's daughter that Velen kidnapped, which would have done wonders to justify furthermore why he was so mad at Velen, and that got scratched and reversed in Legion.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:09 AM
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:15 AM
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:20 PM
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If she was the daughter of Kil'jaeden or Archimonde, it'd be a good mirror to Rakeesh/Velen.

But wasnt she born on Draenor?
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:24 PM
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If she was the daughter of Kil'jaeden or Archimonde, it'd be a good mirror to Rakeesh/Velen.
This is what I think. Any counters to this or any theory can be explained away with the whole thing being cut.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:24 PM
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Wasn't she born on Draenor?
I think so, yeah.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:44 PM
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None of the popular theories really work. They'd either not really be dark secrets (Most older draenei probably have a couple of eredar family members. Being a convert isn't exactly 'dark'), wouldn't fit the timeline (she's fairly young, low-ranking and naive when we first meet her, and I'm pretty sure that was implied in her early descriptions as well), and/or only apply to the MU while the dark secret is supposed to also apply to the AU (Eredar twin, mother of Garona).

I can think of nothing that really fits. I can only make random guesses based on absolutely nothing: When a teen, she ran away from home to be with an orc, decided that orc culture wasn't for her, ran back home, but left behind (either being unable to take him with her, or just flat out cutting off all ties to her time with the orcs) a half-orc kid; Lantresor.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:51 PM
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I chose Daughter of KJ but I think its more "descended from" rather than direct daughter.

Still, it would parallel the whole Rakeesh thing.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:15 PM
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I expected at least one vote for the twins. Some people hate fun.

I gravitate towards her being related to KJ so I guess I should have said distant relative than daughter.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:20 PM
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I voted Kil'Jaedan's daughter because that seems like the sort of crap Blizzard would try to pull.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:34 PM
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I expected at least one vote for the twins. Some people hate fun.

I gravitate towards her being related to KJ so I guess I should have said distant relative than daughter.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:49 PM
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Does it even matter in the end? It was a cut story, and like everything in WoD, was probably bad.
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If she was the daughter of Kil'jaeden or Archimonde, it'd be a good mirror to Rakeesh/Velen.

But wasnt she born on Draenor?
... do we know how Draenei reproduce? Do they give live birth? Maybe she was an egg from Argus or had some kinda Kryptonian birthing chamber.

Granted we do have half-orcs like Garona and Lantresor...
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:12 PM
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I expected at least one vote for the twins. Some people hate fun.

I gravitate towards her being related to KJ so I guess I should have said distant relative than daughter.
I like the twin theory.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:22 PM
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... do we know how Draenei reproduce?
Same way as everyone else?
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:42 PM
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I was thinking more about it and the born on Draenor could mean something like a baptism if she was corrupted before.
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The only way to become a Draenei is to get bitten by another Draenei and then have your inner Draenic rage calmed by a ritual underneath a magic tree?
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:14 PM
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Well if the "Draenei travel in stasis" thing is legit, it could have been that Velen took her as a baby and didnt wake her up until "recently"
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:40 PM
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You know, I'd actually really like a return to alt Draenor done right. Focusing in Farahlon and Goria or something.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:39 PM
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:29 AM
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Im gonna go with Garona's mother, until suddenly, after the "boy's trip incident" , they realized half the playerbase are women and the implied rape wouldnt sit well with feminists and their beta orbiters.
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