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Meanwhile, the war on freedom of speech continues. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-suppo...-rally-1444834 Note that this is, of course, the kind of thing that donnie explicitly approves of.
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Jesus Christ The Real Conspiracies section is absolutely horrifying. Edit: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...etition/?amp=1
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![]() For those of you not following the situation in Oregon, the obstructionist republicans there have taken to the extreme and fled the state to avoid doing their jobs. In accordance with the law, police officers need to go get them so quorum can be made. Showing their true colors, one of these "legislators" responded to this with what appears to be a threat of physical violence on these officers of the law. The "blue lives matter" group is nowhere to be seen, but there were apparently enough credible threats of violence from rightists that the state capitol shut down yesterday.
https://apnews.com/1a3dd1c7c6424a4f9b71226e3d5c7e32 https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/...-troopers.html https://www.newsweek.com/oregon-stat...escape-1445388 Those of you who whine about me mentioning I am armed and willing to defend myself and my family, feel free to shut the fuck up.
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![]() What the fuck do those chuckleheads in Oregon think they're doing?
It's really weird that I haven't seen many articles on the web about it.
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Just like youve not seen news articles on global social media sites banning trump support, news articles on pintrest excorcising political censorship, articles about reddit and youtube banning people for discussing it, articles about google higher ups planning election obstruction, or articles about google and reddit banning/removing videos with said video footage. Welcome to the end game. The Right is evil to the left. The left is evil to the right. I told you people in 16 that this path ends with blood. The other sho is going to drop soon.
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The government telling reporters what they can and cant talk about in the US would be considered extremely authoritarian, but the UK does it all the time.
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![]() We have already covered your willingness to kill people you disagree with in 2016 election build up. Mods ignored your threats and statementts because they "skirted" the rules. So you even "totally just a joke bro" advocate for concentration camps? Not really surprising. All I can really say is... This type of banter only hurts
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I mean, this is not about America vs how the UK sees it though. In most of the World, ‘left’ and ‘right’ are Economic first. Otherwise, you only need to look at the so-called ‘left’ parties in countries like India and see that they are not socially liberal in comparison to American, or even Western perception of the ‘Left’. But economically speaking? They would be considered Leftist, and that party’s entire system would be based on leftist thought. Here’s what I would think when I think of these terms. Where would you classify Americans fitting into each of these? Because many of them would not fit in either the Democrats nor the Republicans. Far Left(Authoritarian) - Communism Far Left(Libertarian) - Social Anarchism Left- Socialism Centre left - Social Democracy/Liberal Socialism Centre- All forms of economic liberalism, whether classical or neoliberal Centre Right- Liberal Conservatism Right- Socioeconomic Conservatism Far Right - Fascism Now, I would mention that in many cases it is the Centre that is most pro immigration, with both Left and Right being less inclined towards for different reasons. The Danish Left parties just won an election on a restrictive immigration platform. I’d also like to add that a decently sized minority of Brexiteers are Left wing. We call them Lexiteers. Some of them are prominent Labour Party politicians. Last edited by CoDimus the Staunch; 06-25-2019 at 04:33 PM.. |
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Even when major news groups said "Trumps right, this is a crisis, give the funding" , congress ignored it and tried to pull the political prisoner bit. Now the crisis is bad enough that groups of hundreds of african migrants are finding it easier to fly and cross the southern border. And the thing is, its been a problem since Obama. The "no toothbrush, unwashed" litigation is from an Obama era case just now hitting courts. And its disgusting. Its disgusting a government official has said thd comments she has said. But its even more disgusting that this problem has been going on and building to this point, with people saying this is a crisis, and the left, writ large, saying its a made up crisis. So the places needed to detain illegal aliens, who are coming through in record numbers,who now need more funding than ever, dont get funding. Because the left didnt care about a crisis. They cared about painting the right as hateful bigots, and ignored the border. And already stressed conditions deteriorated. So the left ignored the vulnerable and desperate and yes, even oppurtunistic in a lot of cases, in order to paint half of their constituants as bigots. The left used these people as politican pawns by ignoring them, have denied funding causing conditions to deteriorate, and now have the audacity to weild those same people they abandoned as weapons now that its convienient to acknowledge these poor people. Like they are now worth championing for, because the left finally gets something out of it. "Look how bad these conditions are!", they say in scorn to the right, who've been trying to get funding for the border for years. AoC is right in the barbaric conditions. She should be. Its partially her fault. Quote:
Left wing US right now has huge swathes of people advocating for non-governmental entities to control speech, search, day to day info, etc. That dude steven crowder insulted? Flat out said in a youtube video he thinks its journos job to decide what news is and only report stuff they think matters. Private company telling you whats good. Left wing grouos getting banks to literally close accounts of people. You are right in broad strokes. Its not a non existent entity in the united states. Its just not one in office
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I'm disappointed that you've fallen for right-wing propaganda and information warfare so thoroughly. D's have repeatedly requested and put forth solutions, such as the popular "catch & release" program that saw amazing results. Unfortunately, that was immediately stopped by the right because it's not concentration camps. Meanwhile, Republicans have held all three branches of the government for 3 years now. It has resulted in concentration camps because that is apparently exactly what they want.
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Nearly half of catch and release. Thats not working. And yes. The rights failed those people to. Our entire immigration system is trash. Its destroying entire US sectors of business in some areas, puts people at a disadvantage, is unbalanced as hell.. But "Well, use this system where more than 1 out of 3 gets in unmonitored" isnt the answer.
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https://qz.com/1312707/trumps-family...rant-families/ But hey, I guess I'm just a bleeding heart would be willing to deal with a few illegal immigrants being caught later instead of having concentration camps.
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![]() I don't see the issue here. An incredibly successful trial of a program is a great reason to go with concentration camps instead because...?
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Cost will increase as more stress is on the system, and as thousands more join each day the cost will ecponentially go up, until funding isnt available, and we get right back here. But you know that, and ypur response will be "well just let people go" which leads into effective open borders. Which is what democrats want.
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Even if I take you at your word, him saying that it's the responsibility of journalists to report the news does not necessarily mean that he is advocating for its corporatization or advocates for corporations to "telling you whats good." That's a fallacy of relevance. Regarding his statement though, that seems fairly benign. How would that be a different approach from a non-journalist? Since presumably, a non-journalist "would decide what news is and only report stuff they think matters." |
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![]() I think most supporters of the Democrats don't want the United States to tear families apart and hold people in concentration camps with unhumanitarian (and occasionally fatal) conditions without legal due process. Admittedly, the basic moral standards that they are expecting from our nation to pass here are pretty darn low. |
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The Fun thing about the due process part is that that's why they're there in the first place, to await trial because if you let them go you get to have a nice game of catch the illegal. Alternatively, you could just say nuts to that and deport em all no trial, no judge nada (Not advocating btw). As far as for the conditions in the centres dont worry, supposedly some relief is on its way. |
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![]() And once again the left results to chemicle attacks.
Oregan has Antifa throwing "milkshakes" that are quick dry cement, which causes chemicle burns. Also beat a reporter and sent him to the ER. Quote:
And what happened here. But hey, electoral interference is ok when you do it, obvs
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![]() Is there any point to trying to engage you on terms that would enforce an equally condemnatory perspective on the right?
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But, I mean, I suppose questions like this are where Gene, Kak, etc start crhing about whataboutism, sooo. As an update, the journo who was beaten by Antifa is in the hospital due to a brain bleed, and Quilette is reporting it as a chemicle attack, so the "milkshakes" thrown on him had quick dry in it.
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