What retail is is an arcade hall simulator. Everything is just a button press away, easily available, without a hassle. Like adding a coin in an arcade. Want to play PvE? Add a coin and you're playing a dungeon. Want to play PvP? Add a coin and you're playing a battleground. Want to level up quickly? Just add a coin and you'll be decked out in full heirlooms making it a breeze. Don't want to level up at all? Add a coin (literally) and you'll be max level. It's like running from arcade game to arcade game, playing different, pointless mini-games with instant gratification in the form of cheap tokens and shiny rewards.

An RPG is not a thrilling Hitchcock movie. It shouldn't follow the same philosophies.

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No, it's not a Hitchcock movie, but it definitely should not bore you into quitting. Every good game keeps you hooked the entire time. If you have to tell me "but wait, it gets better", you already screwed up.

And I don't get this about "everything being a button press away". What, you saying the game is easy? As opposed to Molten Core which has recently been beaten by people under level 60, and obviously undergeared? Classic just puts a lot of fake walls to make the game seem longer and like it requires more effort. All it requires is just time. Grinding and grinding. Yeah, the real WoW still has a lot of grinding. But at least I get to do what I actually want to do and not dread logging in because I will have to hold W for 15 minutes before I get to have fu- before I get to stand in front of a mob and drink coffee IRL.

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I'd take on-demand raiding over having to wait for a specific time in the week in order to kill a boss any day.

Right now if you want to go fight Azshara you just need to use group finder and there you have it.

Before on-demand raiding? You had to be either on a guild or be lucky enough to be selected by one of the few groups that were doing the content at the time you were on ON YOUR SERVER, because cross-realm anything wasn't a thing back then. So basically if you ever felt like "oh guess I'll kill Azshara now" it either was coincidentally on raid time or you would have to wait a long time.

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Krainz why the fuck do you come in this thread every day just to bitch about how you don't like classic or to try and make it look worse to other people

You have said all of this a million times. Go the fuck to another thread that pertains to your interests then. Nobody wants to see pages of you complaining about this game.

Shandris, looking at the OP, this seems to be a thread to discuss World of Warcraft: Classic, including both its negative and positive aspects; true or merely perceived.

You are more than welcome to open a new thread focussing only on sharing your positive WOW: Classic experiences with other players and point off-topic posters to this (or other more appropriate) threads.

But ease up on the cussing.

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I don't see how talking about on-demand raiding is "bitching at Classic" at all.

EDIT:

Interesting. (Source)

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Apparently this is from the author of Warcraft Logs



Interesting.

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Little hard to believe without a source for those numbers

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Is it? Really?

I wouldn't be the least surprised if it was true.

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I also wouldn't be surprised. Wow classic is inundated with chill groups looking for more Molten Core groupies, most not asking anything other than you be around 60. Never underestimate how much gatekeeping drives away more casual players.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could improve the raiding experience and participation in retail tremendously by deleting LFR, Normal and Heroic and replacing them with one difficulty on the easier end that reaches moderate by the end boss. The people who want to break themselves on difficulty will be happy with Mythic and the rest get to chill with friendly people and thats all most actually want.

So... C'thun didn't last 38 minutes?

Naxx also didn't last long. A few hours and it was easily cleared: https://clips.twitch.tv/FunnyEphemeralCrowVoHiYo

This video provides insightful notions on how classic doesn't capture the vanilla experience:

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