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Old 02-06-2012, 05:50 PM
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Default Garrosh vs Arator - What Could've Been

I understand that Arator could've possibly interfered with Varian's introduction to the Alliance fanbase, but who would the Alliance rather have? I always hear about how the Alliance lacks notable Paladin heroes, etc. Who would the Alliance have rather had as the "face" of their faction? Let's analyze this.

Arator:
  • Son of Turalyon and Alleria. Constant reminder of the Second War and the price the Alliance paid for their victory. A legacy character, and one who embodies the spirit of the Alliance. Strong ties to the Sons of Lothar faction and some of the Alliance's most iconic heroes.
  • Paladin hero. Gives the Alliance a figure who represents their most notable hero unit. Endless possibilities, being the son of Turalyon. Could've had the potential to be the greatest Paladin on Azeroth. Keeps strong Paladin themes in the Alliance.
  • Possibility for a really interesting rivalry dynamic.

    Varian vs Thrall: Varian is a hotheaded warrior, Thrall is a calm shaman/warrior hybrid.

    Garrosh vs Arator: Garrosh is a hotheaded warrior, Arator is a calm paladin.

    Basically creates a mirror of the rivalries between the four big names of their factions.
  • Arator is a young man. He has no family, no children. Being a half-elf, he has a long lifespan, too. Capable of remaining the Alliance's "face" for very long.

Just imagine if Arator had been the commander of the Valiance Expedition. If he'd been the one clashing with Garrosh all over the place. It just seems so perfect. Two sons of legendary heroes, both iconic classes of their factions. Am I the only one who feels this way? That Garrosh vs Arator could've been way cooler than Garrosh vs Varian?
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:58 PM
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As of my post, you are the only one who feels that way.
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And all it takes is a tactically calculated "for the Horde" rallying the troops to make them all think "OMG she really does care!"
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:09 PM
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Meh the brat of Metzen's first author avatar can rot in Outland until the end of time as far as I care.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:28 PM
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It'd be neat.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:40 PM
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Way cooler, yes. Why can't you be working with Blizzard?
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:43 PM
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Way cooler, yes. Why can't you be working with Blizzard?
Oh dear god do you have any idea what you're suggesting?

The next capital update will have Orgimmar become 3 times larger and Stormwind become an untextured hallway filled with untextured polygons.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:30 PM
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:39 PM
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Oh dear god do you have any idea what you're suggesting?

The next capital update will have Orgimmar become 3 times larger and Stormwind become an untextured hallway filled with untextured polygons.
Well, Orgrimmar would become larger. The Southfury River would travel through Ogrimmar instead of beside it.

But Stormwind wouldn't be reduced to nothing. If I had my way, the Park would be rebuilt and filled with refugees from other human kingdoms. Stromgarde would be restored and be in complete Alliance control. Thoradin's Wall would be controlled by the Forsaken and completely redone in their new style, though. I'd also have the Forsaken raising Syndicate. I'd bring back Isiden Perenolde, too....

I'd do a lot of things, actually... but please, let's keep talking about how awesome the OP is.

Wouldn't you love to see Arator smiting orcs, Vyrin? Don't lie to me, I know you would.

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Arator, Supreme Allied Commander of the Alliance.

Way better than High King Varian. At least Arator isn't royalty.

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Old 02-06-2012, 07:59 PM
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Oh dear god do you have any idea what you're suggesting?

The next capital update will have Orgimmar become 3 times larger and Stormwind become an untextured hallway filled with untextured polygons.


You're never happy with anything and you practically never post your own suggestions or constructive feedback.

Just an observation.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:04 PM
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Cosmic, I like it. I just wonder how well they could characterize Arator and make him just as likeable and memorable as Thrall in the franchise.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:08 PM
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I'm loving your idea. I can't stand his parents but he could turn out to be a cool character.

And half elves are cooooooooool.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:17 PM
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I like it. A pity that he wasn't used in Wrath. Perhaps in the future?

But I find it difficult to trust Blizzard to write good plots anymore.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:24 PM
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While I like the idea, as long as Arathor resembles a blood elf, a race rooted in the Horde it wont happen
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:27 PM
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Anduin Wrynn as a Paladin.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:45 PM
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Dagran Thaurissan II as a Paladin.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:55 PM
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:56 PM
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The Alliance needs to move past elves.
What of the Night Elves?
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:00 PM
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The Alliance needs to move past elves.
How better to start than by bringing in a half-human?


His humanity could be played up, he could come to reject his High Elven roots and embrace the ethos of humanity. This might be done in conjunction with an effort to clarify and accentuate the psychological, cultural and philosophical differences between man and mer.


Er, elf. Man and elf.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:02 PM
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But Stormwind wouldn't be reduced to nothing. If I had my way, the Park would be rebuilt and filled with refugees from other human kingdoms. Stromgarde would be restored and be in complete Alliance control. Thoradin's Wall would be controlled by the Forsaken and completely redone in their new style, though. I'd also have the Forsaken raising Syndicate. I'd bring back Isiden Perenolde, too....

I'd do a lot of things, actually... but please, let's keep talking about how awesome the OP is.

Wouldn't you love to see Arator smiting orcs, Vyrin? Don't lie to me, I know you would.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I like this idea quite a bit, although I quite don't trust you with the Forsaken.

Of course, as people have raised, Arator being a half-elf is a problem. He'd need a unique model and have his half-elfness be emphasized so that the numbskulls who play this game don't get confused and think the Alliance is being led by a blood elf.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:31 PM
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Oh dear god do you have any idea what you're suggesting?

The next capital update will have Orgimmar become 3 times larger and Stormwind become an untextured hallway filled with untextured polygons.
You can unclench your butt cheeks because I don't have any sway with Blizzard.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:14 PM
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Cosmic, I like it. I just wonder how well they could characterize Arator and make him just as likeable and memorable as Thrall in the franchise.
To follow the Thrall example, give him no flaws and a million powers.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:32 PM
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To follow the Thrall example, give him no flaws and a million powers.
And the naggy wife.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:35 PM
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The Alliance needs to move past elves.
Elves are an Alliance theme. Deal with it. >:O

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Old 02-06-2012, 10:53 PM
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Elves are an Alliance theme. Deal with it. >
No they aren't. Stop living in the past.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:15 PM
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No they aren't. Stop living in the past.
Yes, they are.

And never! Living in the past is also an Alliance theme! The only one not shared by the Horde.

I'll cling to it like a shaggy dog. Surely it'll pay off in the end!
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