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Old 10-13-2012, 05:19 PM
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Orb of Slow What inconsistencies and mistakes remain in the lore?

Made this thread to help organize all of the goofs and things that just don't make sense within the story. I'll list a couple that I can think of here:
  • If Zandalar was able to shield itself from the Sundering, why wasn't it able to withstand the Shattering?
  • If Old Gods can't really die, then how was Y'Shaarj killed?
  • Kael'thas needed both the Sunwell and Outland's mana-forges to summon Kil'Jaeden to Azeroth, so how was Varimathras able to open a portal to Sargeras in the Undercity?
  • If Archbishop Benedictus was supposed to be the Twilight Father, then who was the Twilight Prophet or were they both one and the same?
  • How is Emperor Dagran Thaurissan still alive after the Cataclysm when the reason that Moira Bronzebeard left Blackrock Mountain was because her husband was killed?
  • How did Thrall have Gorehowl when it was supposed to be in Karazhan?
  • Why did Anub'arak's personality change from reluctant servitude to genuine obedience at the Crusader's Colosseum?
  • Why do people treat Garrosh like he is a reckless youth when he is actually older than Thrall?
Just a few that I can think of. What other ones are there? And if anyone has any explanations to the inconsistencies that people note in this thread, then feel free to share them!
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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Why would the Scourge become all feral, and savage if the Lich King is killed?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:22 PM
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Why is Tirion Fordring the leader of the Silver Hand when he was kicked out of the Hand by Uther?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:22 PM
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If the Rhonin going back in time version of the War of the Ancients is the dimension that applies to World of Warcraft; how and why did Illidan come to wield the Warglaives of Azzinoth, since he never encountered Azzinoth in this reality?
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Why would the Scourge become all feral, and savage if the Lich King is killed?
Because most of the undead are base, mindless beings and they would have nobody directing them without a Lich King.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:23 PM
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Why was the traitor king, Anub'arak, suddenly reluctant to work for the Lich King?
Why do Pandaren, hailing from pandaria, treat Pandaren coming from the Wandering Isle like some alien race? (OK. Blizzard was probably just too lazy to change the quest text...)

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Old 10-13-2012, 05:25 PM
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Why are there Pandaren (and Monks, no less) in Quel'thalas and Azuremyst, if both these starting zones takes place before the Cataclysm and before the parting of the mists? Furthermore, they are training non-Pandaren races to become monks.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:27 PM
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How were Stromgarde and Alterac neighbors?

How was Stromgarde a mountain kingdom?

When did Stromgarde fall?
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Why are there Pandaren (and Monks, no less) in Quel'thalas and Azuremyst, if both these starting zones takes place before the Cataclysm and before the parting of the mists? Furthermore, they are training non-Pandaren races to become monks.
Those are explorers from the Wandering Isle, like Chen. The mist doesn't have anything to do with them. Chronologically, blood elven and draenei monks predate the monks of the other races.
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How were Stromgarde and Alterac neighbors?

How was Stromgarde a mountain kingdom?

When did Stromgarde fall?
I don't think that last one is really an inconsistency, just a lack of information.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:33 PM
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Because most of the undead are base, mindless beings and they would have nobody directing them without a Lich King.
Yeah...so they'd tear each other apart, or break against the actually disciplined forces of the Alliance and Horde. And neutrals.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:34 PM
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I don't think that last one is really an inconsistency, just a lack of information.
I know but I still want to know it.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:37 PM
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Why is Tirion Fordring the leader of the Silver Hand when he was kicked out of the Hand by Uther?
Because the Silver Hand got stomped and he so happened to be the only notable member left alive. So one day he decided to rebuild, be its leader, and get something done.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:38 PM
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Because the Silver Hand got stomped and he so happened to be the only notable member left alive. So one day he decided to rebuild, be its leader, and get something done.
He's not even a part of the order, how can he be the only notable member of a organization he's not a member of?

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He's not even a part of the member, how can he be the only notable member of a organization he's not a member of?
Who can tell hon otherwise if the order is defunct?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:43 PM
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If Zandalar was able to shield itself from the Sundering, why wasn't it able to withstand the Shattering?
All we are going on right now is one troll saying this before we kill him. The details haven't been revealed yet.

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If Old Gods can't really die, then how was Y'Shaarj killed?
It seems the titans can kill Old gods, and have killed more than just Y'Shaarj if Kosak is to be believed.

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Kael'thas needed both the Sunwell and Outland's mana-forges to summon Kil'Jaeden to Azeroth, so how was Varimathras able to open a portal to Sargeras in the Undercity?
Varimathras was most likely more powerful than Keal'thas, being one of the top Dreadlords in the legion (Assumably), and Keal'thus used the cipher of Damnation to summon Kil'Jeaden, the mana forges were for their magic addiction.

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If Archbishop Benedictus was supposed to be the Twilight Father, then who was the Twilight Prophet or were they both one and the same?
They may at one point have been two separate people, (I'm guessing one might have been Rommath before that was scrapped), but after 4.3, where they call Benedictus the Twilight prophet, it's pretty much confirmed they are one guy.

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How is Emperor Dagran Thaurissan still alive after the Cataclysm when the reason that Moira Bronzebeard left Blackrock Mountain was because her husband was killed?
He isn't. The dungeon was so big and dumb that Blizzard didn't bother changing it to a current timeline dungeon. "Gameplay first" is one of their mottos, and the answer id the same as if someone asked why Outland and Northrend don't make sense with current Azeroth.

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How did Thrall have Gorehowl when it was supposed to be in Karazhan?
It was never said in the lore, that the axe was in Karazahn, my guess is the devs put it there as an awesome lore weapon for people to get early in their raiding career. If that isn't a good enough answer, when the brave warrior "noobsmasher" sold it to a vendor, a guard saw it, bought it and gave it to Thrall so it could be honored. Easy explanation.

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Why did Anub'arak's personality change from reluctant servitude to genuine obedience at the Crusader's Colosseum?
Chances are, the Lich king gave him less free will this time.

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Why do people treat Garrosh like he is a reckless youth when he is actually older than Thrall?
Because he acts like a fucking child? Wisdom doesn't just come with age, but also events, and by BC Thrall had aged from many events since he escaped from Durnholde, while Garrosh, being as weak willed as he is, sat around a camp fire crying in his Clefthoof soup.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:47 PM
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Well, there's the bit about all the other neu- eh...

What about the Alliance not knowing there wa- Erm...

Ah, I have one that isn't faction bitching!

Why did Rell supposedly die even though there was magical healing water to the northeast of Pearlfin Village?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:48 PM
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Who can tell hon otherwise if the order is defunct?
I'm glad you didn't notice that I said that he wasn't part of the member.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:49 PM
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Who can tell hon otherwise if the order is defunct?
There are still Knights of the Silver Hand in Stormwind and Ironforge. It's not just that, though, it's also weird that Tirion would take up the mantle considering he has no right to.
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There's also Tides of War and how it handled the war.

"Horde destroyes Northwatch and violates Alliance Waters"

"Don't attack the Horde, we don't want to be the aggressors!"

@Silver Hand stuff.

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Get yourself squared away, learn the layout of the land, and come back to me whenever you need training. I'll be here night or day.
The Knights of the Silver Hand have done well in making this place fairly safe, but as you meet the other citizens, I think you'll find they all have problems they could use some help with--help a <class> can give them. Good luck.
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http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...DwarfKotSH.jpg

People need to stop spewing the BS that the order is gone and or not Alliance.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:55 PM
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Who can tell hon otherwise if the order is defunct?
I realised; it's not Tirion making a new Silver Hand that bothers me.

It's him instantly and magically usurping the Argent Dawn.

This isn't like the Ashen Verdict or Shattered Sun Offensive, where groups combine their forces to achieve a goal. Back in the Plaguelands post-Shattering, they're still the Crusade.
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Got another one here: If ogres arrived from Outland with the Old Horde, how did they spread so quickly and so widely across Azeroth?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:58 PM
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Why are ettins, who should be native to outland, only found on Azeroth?
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Why are ettins, who should be native to outland, only found on Azeroth?
I believe it said in Rise of the Horde that the pre-Horde orcs hunted ogres, so my guess is that Draenor's ettins were either hunted to near-extinction or that most of their mountain range homes were destroyed when the planet exploded. Then a few survivors either made their way through the Dark Portal or they were enslaved by the Old Horde as beasts of war.
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Got another one here: If ogres arrived from Outland with the Old Horde, how did they spread so quickly and so widely across Azeroth?
Ogres were always known to breed quickly (Somehow).
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