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Old 03-12-2018, 08:14 AM
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I think the Dark Irons and Explorer's League are meant to be their counterpart, which makes me hope the Thorium Brotherhood join the Alliance to make up for Horde getting the entirety of the Nightfallen.

Aside from that, I would honestly think that since Blood Elves are archaeologists that Void Elves would have that intrigue as well since they are former Blood Elves, and their interest in forbidden knowledge would lead them to extend that to archaeological pursuits and would not seem out of place to see them working with Dark Irons. At the moment they don't seem to be showcased as having anything they provide to the Alliance, so giving them some kind of role would help them get more use.
Void elves are a very specific sub-faction of blood elves, thought. I'd say leave the dwarves as the Alliance's archeology group, but give the void elves their own niche.

So far, I've found four named void elf NPCs in BfA. All of them have pretty generic looks (3 of them either use the ren'dorei heritage set, or parts of it, and the last one is a Flight Master) and no title or sub-faction to indicate their role.

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Riftblade Kelain
Shadeweaver Zarra
Duskrunner Lorinas
Selina Duskraven <Flight Master>

I think these guys may be part of a quest hub. Maybe in Stormsong, since the area is not released yet?
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Old 03-12-2018, 11:46 AM
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It's great to see that Blizz remembered that they are part of the nightborne culture!
I thought nightborne culture was mostly "being drug adicts and ungrateful bitches".
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Old 03-12-2018, 01:42 PM
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:30 PM
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:27 PM
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:49 PM
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I think these guys may be part of a quest hub. Maybe in Stormsong, since the area is not released yet?
I was thinking that, Stormsong seems like it's going to be the most Old-God/void focused zone, makes sense to have the Void Elves there studying it.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:58 PM
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:08 PM
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Void elves are a very specific sub-faction of blood elves, thought. I'd say leave the dwarves as the Alliance's archeology group, but give the void elves their own niche.

So far, I've found four named void elf NPCs in BfA. All of them have pretty generic looks (3 of them either use the ren'dorei heritage set, or parts of it, and the last one is a Flight Master) and no title or sub-faction to indicate their role.

Here they are:
Riftblade Kelain
Shadeweaver Zarra
Duskrunner Lorinas
Selina Duskraven <Flight Master>

I think these guys may be part of a quest hub. Maybe in Stormsong, since the area is not released yet?
Hopefully they'll be given some relevant role. Have you found any Lightforged or Dark Iron NPCs?
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:58 PM
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People it’s the launch content with a focus on recruiting island nations. The other allied races aren’t going to be that involved. Have we seen any Highmountain, or Nightborne quests? Maybe they’ll be in the next patch.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:17 PM
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People it’s the launch content with a focus on recruiting island nations. The other allied races aren’t going to be that involved. Have we seen any Highmountain, or Nightborne quests? Maybe they’ll be in the next patch.
There are some Nightborne quests, yes. And some Highmountain hanging around. Actually, both those races participate in the Horde intro sequence to Zandalar.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:23 PM
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If they can find something for Nightborne and Highmountain to do as Horde members even in Zandalar where they arguably don't fit then I don't see why they can't do the same for Void Elves and Lightforged in Kul Tiras.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:30 PM
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Hopefully they'll be given some relevant role. Have you found any Lightforged or Dark Iron NPCs?
I've found several Dark Iron NPCs and a few Lightforged ones. There's a group called Light's Vengeance, but I think it may just be an enemy team in Island Exploration. But, since my interest is in the high and void elves, I've not been keeping tabs on the other races.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:11 PM
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There's a group called Light's Vengeance, but I think it may just be an enemy team in Island Exploration.
Most likely. It fits the pattern of having teams of three NPCs along a certain theme (usually in the form of three characters from the same race with different classes or vice versa).

https://beta.wowdb.com/search?search=warbraves
https://beta.wowdb.com/search?search=wolfpack#t1:npcs
https://beta.wowdb.com/search?search=sunhawks
https://beta.wowdb.com/search?search...27s+buccaneers
https://beta.wowdb.com/search?search=jaina%27s+angels
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:26 PM
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Jaina's Angels? Hah! That's awesome!

Oh look! One of them appears to be a high elf!
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:28 AM
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I think the Dark Irons and Explorer's League are meant to be their counterpart, which makes me hope the Thorium Brotherhood join the Alliance to make up for Horde getting the entirety of the Nightfallen.
With moira joining Ironforge and especially around MoP, it was pretty clear that a large portion joined the alliance. It was half of the Dark Irons joined under the banner of Moira Ironforge? Part of this group was also the Thorium Brotherhood.
Maybe you could say the remaining the dark irons joined?

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I don't mind if horde got more numbers joined under allied races. Just don't like it that everyone is fully part of the horde just like the traditional factions are.
That and still find it bad that the nightborne joined one faction. It was just too focused and specialised connection to the player in Legion.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:22 AM
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With moira joining Ironforge and especially around MoP, it was pretty clear that a large portion joined the alliance. It was half of the Dark Irons joined under the banner of Moira Ironforge? Part of this group was also the Thorium Brotherhood.
Maybe you could say the remaining the dark irons joined?

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I don't mind if horde got more numbers joined under allied races. Just don't like it that everyone is fully part of the horde just like the traditional factions are.
That and still find it bad that the nightborne joined one faction. It was just too focused and specialised connection to the player in Legion.
Allied races are a dumb idea that will inevitably backfire (I guess it already kinda does a little). They should just have gone the traditional route and give each faction one normal race and extend on it, like Zandalari for Horde and whatever for the Alliance.
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:32 AM
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Allied races are a dumb idea that will inevitably backfire (I guess it already kinda does a little). They should just have gone the traditional route and give each faction one normal race and extend on it, like Zandalari for Horde and whatever for the Alliance.
lol. Perfectly describes making races for the Alliance.
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:53 AM
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Allied races are a dumb idea that will inevitably backfire (I guess it already kinda does a little). They should just have gone the traditional route and give each faction one normal race and extend on it, like Zandalari for Horde and whatever for the Alliance.
I'll disagree. Allied races are an awesome idea. The problem is just that the first four have all been rushed and unfinished.

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Old 03-14-2018, 12:01 PM
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I'll disagree. Allied races are an awesome idea. The problem is just that the first four have all been rushed and unfinished.
I think the bigger problem is the choice of allied races. Zandalari are the only ones that kinda sorta really deserve to be treated as a seperate race, not just more customization options (of the CONFIRMED confirmed ones). And even that's stretching it a little if they ever give Trolls upright posture Orc-style.

I'm a sucker for new races, by all means roll them in by the bushels, but FFS make it worth it and don't waste valuable Allied Races-estate with new antlers.
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:17 PM
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I think the bigger problem is the choice of allied races. Zandalari are the only ones that kinda sorta really deserve to be treated as a seperate race, not just more customization options (of the CONFIRMED confirmed ones). And even that's stretching it a little if they ever give Trolls upright posture Orc-style.

I'm a sucker for new races, by all means roll them in by the bushels, but FFS make it worth it and don't waste valuable Allied Races-estate with new antlers.
I see Allied races as just subraces, but without the need to have a lore/genetic tie to existing races. Having them not totally new is a fair exchange for having lots of them added in a short period. It means options for everyone. Personally, my main complains about the allied races are: lack of customization (few skin colors, hair styles and so on) and, in the case of Alliance races, little lore development.

(Thought I'd be way happier if we had gotten Broken instead of LF Draenei and you-know-what in place of the Loreless Smurfs)
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Old 03-14-2018, 05:26 PM
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Zandalari get dino forms for druids.

But did you know that Kul Tirans get druids too?

And they're fucking WICKER BEASTS?

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Zandalari get dino forms for druids.

But did you know that Kul Tirans get druids too?

And they're fucking WICKER BEASTS?

The community was asking for that

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...give_alliance/

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Old 03-14-2018, 06:47 PM
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Allied races are a dumb idea that will inevitably backfire (I guess it already kinda does a little). They should just have gone the traditional route and give each faction one normal race and extend on it, like Zandalari for Horde and whatever for the Alliance.
Just have Sethrak join the Alliance and then give High Elf customization to Void Elves, and then you'll have curbed about 70% of the Alliance bitching about how much better Horde allied races are.

Also lol @ the fact that Kul Tirans will get to be dark and creepy Druids before Worgen. It's okay though, makes it easier for me to decide what class my Kul Tiran is gonna be and what I'm gonna level to get their heritage armor. Glad some fucking good Alliance news is slowly coming out now.
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