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Old 07-16-2010, 12:37 AM
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:59 AM
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LURID!?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Another Alliance Hero killed by the Horde.
Now that's fucked up.

We get one really cool, funny undead guy on our side, and then lose him.
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:05 AM
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:10 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlYX...os=vy2bEdLbZ7I someone did the questline. Lets watch.
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:14 AM
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Because they MADE the corpse!
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:14 AM
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Ehh, Lurid did already die at leat once after Thssarian had raised him. However, he did resurrect him again. (Just read Death Knight.)

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Old 07-16-2010, 01:15 AM
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:54 AM
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Finished the video now.

Man, Sylvanas is indeed badass. And yes, the Forsaken now mostly control the Western Plaguelands.

It actually makes perfect sense. The Forsaken were decimated during the war against the Lich King and Varmathras short coup d'tat. As we already know from other Cata Info Sylvanas wants to prevent that the Forsaken die out (since they can't procreate) and is persuing this goal VERY agressivly.

However, as we also have seen, this "new" forsaken are indeed Sylvanas puppys, since they are mindcontrolled by her Valkyr.


Can't wait until we find out the Alliance Version of the Questline.

Also, wasn't there rumors that there were quests were we have to deal with Bolvar's new scourge?
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:57 AM
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Things in Cata are bad, but not quite on that level.
Not that bad? Thrall's pretty much the only thing holding the world together for a while.
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:10 AM
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Not that bad? Thrall's pretty much the only thing holding the world together for a while.
That would make a good end to Cata. Just when we are about to finish deathwing Azshara assassinates Thrall and the world collapses into deepholm. All of Azeroth is in ruins and all bases will become refugee camps with tents
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:18 AM
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That would make a good end to Cata. Just when we are about to finish deathwing Azshara assassinates Thrall and the world collapses into deepholm. All of Azeroth is in ruins and all bases will become refugee camps with tents
Ruins and camps with tents... Sounds just like the vanilla horde to me!
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:44 AM
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It appears that through quests the Forsaken gain control of ALL of Andorhal. Not only that, but they explode plague barrels among some of the regained human farms. Not only that, but Sylvanas' respect for the Horde seems to have evaporated.

http://runaan.shaiex.net/pictures/wp...punishment.jpg
Wait a minute....

Beneath the Undercity?
I didn't even know there was such a place.
What the hell has she been cooking down there??
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:50 AM
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Which Gurtogg? Be specific here.

The insane, bloodthristy one, or the one located in the Black temple?
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They're one and the same.

PS. So does anyone know do these new Forsaken troops have any free will? It seems to me they are all perfectly enslaved. I guess it's too early in Beta to find out, what some Forsaken or Blood elves think about this.
My secret is out.

Though I guess this answers the question of why these new individuals are serving the Forsaken when they are newly risen. Sylvanas is using her Banshee charm ability on them.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:24 AM
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After watching the questline done on youtube, it seems that the new forsaken aren't hostile at first. A lot of them emote for the Dark Lady, I am Forsaken, I live, etc. etc. without being charmed. Don't know how much sense that makes...
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:44 AM
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It's weird. In the Forsaken starting quest when you wake up new Forsaken, someone like Vivian Voss a former Scarlet Crusader freaks out and runs away. While waking an undead hunter is like "Ah I see. I guess I'm part of the Horde now" and just shrugs it off. Or just complain or confused about it. Like "It's so dark in here. I'm not sure I like being undead." But I guess if Sylvannas really had a problem with a lot of them, charming and mind-control always works.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:51 AM
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One thing that has been bothering me is why do you only find the corpse of Lurid but not Thassarian, what if the Alliance commander of this section is not too happy with him or someone even higher up is not too happy with the fact that Thassarian is still on good terms with Koltira Deathweaver and seem to have lost the battle by not attacking the Forsaken right away but regroup and wait with the final push until it was too late.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:09 AM
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One thing that has been bothering me is why do you only find the corpse of Lurid but not Thassarian, what if the Alliance commander of this section is not too happy with him or someone even higher up is not too happy with the fact that Thassarian is still on good terms with Koltira Deathweaver and seem to have lost the battle by not attacking the Forsaken right away but regroup and wait with the final push until it was too late.
err... cuz he didn't die?
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:09 AM
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I will laugh so hard if the Alliance side quest, once it finally is finished, has someone on the Alliance like Varian suddenly appear and drag off Thussarian to the Stockades or Vault for making the ceasefire, killing Lurid as he tries to stop them.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:13 AM
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I will laugh so hard if the Alliance side quest, once it finally is finished, has someone on the Alliance like Varian suddenly appear and drag off Thussarian to the Stockades or Vault for making the ceasefire, killing Lurid as he tries to stop them.
that'd be quite an interesting possibility. although, i don't think it will happen. atleast, i hope it won't.

from horde PoV it seems thassarian broke the pact between him and koltira. my guess is - it's been a sylvanas' doing. she sent some forsaken that weren't under direct command of koltira to provoke the attack.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:20 AM
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She might refer to the current Undercity. Remember, with Cataclysm, the surface area of UC will be accessible.
Yeah, but "Undercity" technically refers to the part beneath the ruins of Lordaeron. She specifically said "beneath the Undercity", which makes me think there's some kind of secret chamber down there that the Kor'kron guards don't know about.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:21 AM
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Between Thassarian breaking the pact & being absent from Andorhol, I'd say it's very likely his dealings with Koltira are revealed & he's in deep shit over it. People are naturally sympathetic to the two of them, but striking a secret back door deal with the enemy seems like a good way of getting yourself executed for treason to me.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:22 AM
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that'd be quite an interesting possibility. although, i don't think it will happen. atleast, i hope it won't.

from horde PoV it seems thassarian broke the pact between him and koltira. my guess is - it's been a sylvanas' doing. she sent some forsaken that weren't under direct command of koltira to provoke the attack.
Well we don't know the full details of the truce but doesn't Sylvannas as Lindsay Revansun send you to attack Alliance laborers and turn them into Forsaken troops. If there was a truce, it was broken by then and the Andorhal troops would be outraged and want to start swinging back whether Thassarian approved or not. And then when you return to Koltira he's surprised that the Alliance militia and armed farmers attacked him from behind. That's my assumption. Though Thassarian's disappearance is quite strange seeing as there's still Andorhal defenders before you reach Lurid's corpse. Either an assassin went after him and Lurid sacrificed himself so Thassarian can go into hiding or the Andorhal chain of command ousted him as commander of their forces.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:30 AM
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from horde PoV it seems thassarian broke the pact between him and koltira. my guess is - it's been a sylvanas' doing. she sent some forsaken that weren't under direct command of koltira to provoke the attack.
The issue is I don't see Thassarian breaking the pact. It seems almost out of character to me that he would not only break that pact, but also run away from a fight he was personally leading. It really stinks of someone else taking over command of the battle from him and throwing the militia at the Forsaken, Lurid being the obvious example of something having gone wrong since you find him before the Forsaken take over the city.

I also find it balances out well if the friendship of the two ultimately gets them in a bad place with their respective factions.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:30 AM
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Is there any word from the devs about when the Alliance finale will be implemented (or is it and it's simply bugged)?
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:41 AM
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People are naturally sympathetic to the two of them, but striking a secret back door deal with the enemy seems like a good way of getting yourself executed for treason to me.
Especially given Varian's well-established prejudices. He better not kill Thassarian...or I'm coming after him with my orc warlock and killing HIM, and sucking out his soul into a little gem in my soon-to-be-useless soul bag.

Hmm. I think I should do that anyway. I want my bear.
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