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Old 06-08-2017, 04:02 PM
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Thanks to so many Republicans in power, we'll finally be able to teach controversies in schools!
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Rep. Terese Berceau, a Madison Democrat, was quizzing Rep. Jesse Kremer, her Republican colleague from Kewaskum, at a hearing for his proposed Campus Free Speech Act before the state Assembly’s Committee on Colleges and Universities recently.
Berceau wondered what would happen under the bill — which requires University of Wisconsin System institutions to be neutral on “controversies of the day” — if a student in a geology class argued the Biblical theory that the earth is only 6,000 years old.
“Is it okay for the professor to tell them they’re wrong?” Berceau asked during the lengthy session on May 11.
“The earth is 6,000 years old,” Kremer offered. “That’s a fact.”
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progres...ld-thats-fact/

I can't wait to go back to school and find out that electricity is a form of energy resulting from the existence of charged particles or some sort of mysterious force that no one has ever observed or felt!

Why do Christians have to force their stupid mythology on everyone else? I hope he gets punished by Sharia law.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:18 PM
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Thanks to so many Republicans in power, we'll finally be able to teach controversies in schools!

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progres...ld-thats-fact/

I can't wait to go back to school and find out that electricity is a form of energy resulting from the existence of charged particles or some sort of mysterious force that no one has ever observed or felt!

Why do Christians have to force their stupid mythology on everyone else? I hope he gets punished by Sharia law.
Nah, it's just Americans being nutjobs as usual. You'd be hard pressed finding something like this in Europe, even in Poland.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:20 PM
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Nah, it's just Americans being nutjobs as usual. You'd be hard pressed finding something like this in Europe, even in Poland.
You would if your politics were as ridiculously far to the right as ours are.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:23 PM
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You would if your politics were as ridiculously far to the right as ours are.
The right in most of our countries is atheist or at least absolutely secular. Christian parties are generally center or left-leaning (Christian Socialism).
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:29 PM
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The American right isn't that guy. It is free market economics, a strong national defense, decentralized/accountable government, religious freedom, individual rights, ect... You know all the things that makes us the world super power.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:54 PM
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Thanks to so many Republicans in power, we'll finally be able to teach controversies in schools!

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progres...ld-thats-fact/

I can't wait to go back to school and find out that electricity is a form of energy resulting from the existence of charged particles or some sort of mysterious force that no one has ever observed or felt!

Why do Christians have to force their stupid mythology on everyone else? I hope he gets punished by Sharia law.
Whoa, what is that source for that book? The "never observed or felt" makes it look like a parody.

Like... I don't even know what biblical reference it'd be going for. That Psalm at the end isn't connected.

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Old 06-08-2017, 05:26 PM
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The American right isn't that guy. It is free market economics, a strong national defense, decentralized/accountable government, religious freedom, individual rights, ect... You know all the things that makes us the world super power.
You don't get to assign beliefs to these people. They're literally part of the RNC and "religious values" has been part of the platform for a long time. Often times that means gays need to be stopped at all costs and creationism is the only "true" science.

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Whoa, what is that source for that book? The "never observed or felt" makes it look like a parody.

Like... I don't even know what biblical reference it'd be going for. That Psalm at the end isn't connected.
Science 4 Students. Seems to be a student text. Here's more from it.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:27 PM
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You don't get to assign beliefs to these people. They're literally part of the RNC and "religious values" has been part of the platform for a long time. Often times that means gays need to be stopped at all costs and creationism is the only "true" science.
But there are private religious schools all over the US that knock the socks off academically of their secular public schools.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:56 PM
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But there are private religious schools all over the US that knock the socks off academically of their secular public schools.
And I'm sure that will be used as the excuse for why we should teach everyone about the Great Flood as fact in history class.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:39 PM
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Science 4 Students. Seems to be a student text. Here's more from it.
I just don't even know what they're going for. Is it supposed to be a comparison to God, with the intangible and insensible stuff? I've seen that comparison made with oxygen (which is bad enough). But, electricity?

Electricity never observed? I'm fairly certain lightning is in the Bible; I've even heard it given as a possibility for how there could be light without the sun in Genesis 1. This take is just brand new to me.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:43 PM
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And I'm sure that will be used as the excuse for why we should teach everyone about the Great Flood as fact in history class.
I don't believe stuff like this actually happens.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:11 PM
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I don't believe stuff like this actually happens.
Then you haven't been paying attention. Teaching creationism and other biblican bullshit in schools has been an issue for a long time.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:22 PM
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Then you haven't been paying attention. Teaching creationism and other biblican bullshit in schools has been an issue for a long time.
I just thought it was a made up thing.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:53 PM
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I just thought it was a made up thing.
It's a very real thing that I was hoping we were over as a country, but I guess I was wrong. I remember in my high school biology class when we went over evolution they were legally required to mention that not everyone believes in it and some people believe in creationism. The teacher was cool and went over that was quickly as possible.
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Old 06-08-2017, 09:00 PM
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It's a very real thing that I was hoping we were over as a country, but I guess I was wrong. I remember in my high school biology class when we went over evolution they were legally required to mention that not everyone believes in it and some people believe in creationism. The teacher was cool and went over that was quickly as possible.
That did not happen to me ever. The only time I learned about religion was in a world religion class and that was multiple religions.

I made a children's book about Muhammad's story once.
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Old 06-10-2017, 03:17 PM
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Texas' abstinence-only sex education combined with its anti-choice policies are resulting in a crazy high teen birth rate.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/06/texas-s...e-only-sex-ed/
(Yes, I know it's a garbage source, but they actually source their claims in the article)
Bonus: Texas also has the highest rate of repeat teen pregnancy!
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...gnancy-country
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...en-pregnancies
And, of course, Texas has the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...linics-funding

Why do Christians in power set everything up so perfectly so that a bunch of kids have kids and try to kill the mothers along the way?
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:15 PM
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One of my liberal friends wants me to watch the Hand Maiden's Tale.
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:37 PM
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One of my liberal friends wants me to watch the Hand Maiden's Tale.
The book is better.
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Old 06-10-2017, 11:19 PM
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Texas' abstinence-only sex education combined with its anti-choice policies are resulting in a crazy high teen birth rate.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/06/texas-s...e-only-sex-ed/
(Yes, I know it's a garbage source, but they actually source their claims in the article)
Bonus: Texas also has the highest rate of repeat teen pregnancy!
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...gnancy-country
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...en-pregnancies
And, of course, Texas has the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...linics-funding

Why do Christians in power set everything up so perfectly so that a bunch of kids have kids and try to kill the mothers along the way?
Welp. A lot of similar but distinct issues here. We definitely need better healthcare access, especially for mothers. Articles say the bulk of these mothers die days/weeks after birth, which is when their medicaid turns off. (Not really a religious political issue, though it should be? Conservatives have sadly alienated themselves from healthcare access.)

As for abstinence only, I don't even know. My guess is lazy teenagers are okay with family rules against contraceptives, but not with keeping their genitals in their pants? It's a bad combination.

And if you really want to talk "anti-choice", go ahead and bump the Abortion thread, and I'll meet you there. It shouldn't be a religious issue - same as healthcare access.
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Old 06-11-2017, 04:07 AM
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As for abstinence only, I don't even know. My guess is lazy teenagers are okay with family rules against contraceptives, but not with keeping their genitals in their pants? It's a bad combination.
It's case of blindness to the future.
Not using contraceptive has no immediate cost, so you can conform to your group pressure for free.
Then having sex is private so it has no immediate cost either, and you can have your fun without confronting group pressure.
Then the girl gets pregnant and you have to deal with the consequences.

One simpler example would be assisted suicide, it's free for you to be against it until you're 90 and bed stricken with three types of cancer. Then your choice becomes real.
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Old 06-11-2017, 07:39 AM
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^ Well, you say it's free. As of now my most suicidal years were in middle school.
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Old 06-11-2017, 07:57 AM
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The book is better.
I think it is more of the hyperbolic "This is what they would do to you if they had too much power," as a scare tactic to change my voting habits.
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Old 06-11-2017, 08:03 AM
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^ Well, you say it's free. As of now my most suicidal years were in middle school.
I'm speaking of assisted suicide, when you want to but do not have the physical mean anymore.
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Old 06-11-2017, 08:10 AM
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I'm speaking of assisted suicide, when you want to but do not have the physical mean anymore.
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Old 06-11-2017, 09:24 AM
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I think it is more of the hyperbolic "This is what they would do to you if they had too much power," as a scare tactic to change my voting habits.
If this liberal is your friend, it may be more of a 'this is an opportunity I think you may benefit from, by which your perspective on the world and its social phenomena might be broadened.' But I say this as one who knows nothing of the story you're talking about.
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