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Old 09-09-2016, 08:04 AM
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Goblins make heavy use of guns and are loosely a "titanic" race, having been created by Mimiron (they're as titanic as gnomes) so I'd say Titanstrike is "naturally" theirs, too.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:22 AM
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In my headcanon and personal roleplay, a different person wields each of the artifacts. I have a detailed hierarchy for all the class orders.

For example, paladin:

The Highlord of the Silver Hand is a dwarf male that wields the Ashbringer. Below him are the two Silver Lords: a human female wielding the Silver Hand anda tauren male wielding Truthguard.

Bonus, Valarjar:

The Battlelord of the Skyhold and Odyn's highest champion is an orc male that wields the Swords of the Valarjar. But also in the highest honor are a draenei female that wields the Scale of Neltharion and a worgen male that wields Strom'kar.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:24 AM
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:34 AM
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Goblins being titanic is a travesty.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:48 AM
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They aren't pygmy trolls?
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:53 AM
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Goblins being titanic is a travesty.
No, it's really not. But, uhm, opinions.

Edit: Also, they are not really titanic in the sense the dwarves or humans are, ie actual constructs. They are merely a naturally evolved race altered through some alchemic experiments, which seems rather fitting. It doesn't really matter who conducted those experiments.

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It doesn't really matter who conducted those experiments.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:05 AM
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They aren't pygmy trolls?
Honestly my guess is they're Drogbar that were altered somehow.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:12 AM
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Mimiron messed with some species and turned them into goblins in his experiments but they're not really titanic. They're not constructs, they're the result of a literal mad scientist doing what he does best. Fits them well I think.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:15 AM
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Mimiron messed with some species and turned them into goblins in his experiments but they're not really titanic. They're not constructs, they're the result of a literal mad scientist doing what he does best. Fits them well I think.
Meh.

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It just strikes me as unimaginative to make the Titans responsible for pretty much all sapient species. It doesn't add to the goblins in any way and makes the setting feel smaller and more narrow. But that's a discussion for a thread that's not about artifact weapons.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:49 AM
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I agree with Marthen and the squirrel.

And I mean, on Earth you only ever had the line of homo and its predescessors that attained sentience (okay maybe dolphins but let's not go there) and civilization.

On Azeroth, unrelated to the Titans you have the trolls, the jalgar (which means furbolgs and possibly pandaren too), yaungol and their descent, and maybe the hozen and the drogbar, not to count many semi-sentient species such as kobolds and murlocs etc.

Those are the true children of Azeroth that as far as we know have nothing to do with Titanstuff, and they are many.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:25 PM
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I agree with Marthen and the squirrel.

And I mean, on Earth you only ever had the line of homo and its predescessors that attained sentience (okay maybe dolphins but let's not go there) and civilization.

On Azeroth, unrelated to the Titans you have the trolls, the jalgar (which means furbolgs and possibly pandaren too), yaungol and their descent, and maybe the hozen and the drogbar, not to count many semi-sentient species such as kobolds and murlocs etc.

Those are the true children of Azeroth that as far as we know have nothing to do with Titanstuff, and they are many.
With the exception of the trolls, almost everything you mentioned is either confirmed or heavily implied to be the spawn of a wild god. Wild gods require the existence of the blood of a titan world-soul and access to the emerald dream, so they are definitely Titan related.


How this relates to the primal gods of Draenor and the arakkoa, I do not know.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:25 PM
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In my headcanon and personal roleplay, a different person wields each of the artifacts. I have a detailed hierarchy for all the class orders.
There has never been anything in the lore stating one cannot wield multiple powerful weapons. Just pick an order where someone gets all of them you boosted animal.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:39 PM
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With the exception of the trolls, almost everything you mentioned is either confirmed or heavily implied to be the spawn of a wild god. Wild gods require the existence of the blood of a titan world-soul and access to the emerald dream, so they are definitely Titan related.


How this relates to the primal gods of Draenor and the arakkoa, I do not know.
They're tangentially titan related via the Well, but they're not direct titan constructs in the way the earthen, mechagnomes, and vrykul are. We know that Freya didn't directly go and make the Wild Gods, Legion tells us they had normal births and Freya just found them. That's honestly even less titan than goblins.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:58 PM
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With the exception of the trolls, almost everything you mentioned is either confirmed or heavily implied to be the spawn of a wild god. Wild gods require the existence of the blood of a titan world-soul and access to the emerald dream, so they are definitely Titan related.


How this relates to the primal gods of Draenor and the arakkoa, I do not know.
What about Draenor's Wild Gods? There's no titan blood to be had there.
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:09 PM
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Paladin:

Ash bringer: BE (they're big on retribution and the Legion is their enemy)
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Silver Hand: Human (Tyr was humanity's savior)

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Old 09-09-2016, 01:20 PM
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What about Draenor's Wild Gods? There's no titan blood to be had there.
Hmm...what if Draenor's a world where Sargeras actually killed one of the other titans? Or where one of them fled to die from his wounds? What if the rise of Draenor's Wild Gods, the Breakers and the Primals is all a result of a dying titan bleeding out and spilling excess Spirit all over the planet, while the aggressive fungal growth is the planet's own agency of Decay trying to offset the imbalance?
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:25 PM
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Hmm...what if Draenor's a world where Sargeras actually killed one of the other titans? Or where one of them fled to die from his wounds? What if the rise of Draenor's Wild Gods, the Breakers and the Primals is all a result of a dying titan bleeding out and spilling excess Spirit all over the planet, while the aggressive fungal growth is the planet's own agency of Decay trying to offset the imbalance?
It's possible that Draenor was just rich in Arcane, and that spawned life..
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:31 PM
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It's possible that Draenor was just rich in Arcane, and that spawned life..
True, but we do know that the titans or a titan visited Draenor at some point and did something that involved leaving some artifacts behind.

So whatever the case, Draenor's situation wasn't self-contained and spontaneously generated. Somewhere along the line titanic intervention played a part.
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:35 PM
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True, but we do know that the titans or a titan visited Draenor at some point and did something that involved leaving some artifacts behind.

So whatever the case, Draenor's situation wasn't self-contained and spontaneously generated. Somewhere along the line titanic intervention played a part.
A titan entertainment producer staged matches between earth giants and plant giants for pay-per-view magi-vision.
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:15 PM
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A titan entertainment producer staged matches between earth giants and plant giants for pay-per-view magi-vision.
It still goes on today and is watched both by the Legion and the Keepers.
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:32 PM
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They're tangentially titan related via the Well, but they're not direct titan constructs in the way the earthen, mechagnomes, and vrykul are. We know that Freya didn't directly go and make the Wild Gods, Legion tells us they had normal births and Freya just found them. That's honestly even less titan than goblins.
Well, yes. Ultimately, none of the races mentioned, be it the trolls, yaungol or jaungal, were directly or indirectly created by the titans. They simply evolved. Yes, their evolution was influenced by the blood of a titan, but in the end, it was but one of many different factors, and there was no conscious intent behind that, no design. Saying they are titan made because of that is like saying that we, as the humans, are solar made or lunar made.
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Old 09-09-2016, 04:18 PM
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Saying they are titan made because of that is like saying that we, as the humans, are solar made or lunar made.
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