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Old 07-01-2017, 01:59 PM
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Old 07-01-2017, 03:09 PM
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Everyone knows that Minecraft is the superior SoL off-site hangout.
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Old 07-01-2017, 03:45 PM
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Everyone knows that Minecraft is the superior SoL off-site hangout.
Every time I was on in the last week, nobody else was there. Your hangout sucks.
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Old 07-01-2017, 03:55 PM
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Every time I was on in the last week, nobody else was there. Your hangout sucks.
We can see your are on before we join the server.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:00 PM
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It's a pretty sad sign of the times that this is the most active fucking thread on these forums.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:22 PM
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It's a pretty sad sign of the times that this is the most active fucking thread on these forums.
People got dang ol' issues, man.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:30 PM
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:16 PM
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Seems healthier than its been in years, so many old faces popped up over the last week
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:30 PM
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I think it's fading, but that has less to do with politics threads or rule enforcement and more to do with the fact that most fandom discussion has migrated to places like Tumblr and Reddit. Plus, WoW's long in the tooth.
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:45 PM
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I think it's fading, but that has less to do with politics threads or rule enforcement and more to do with the fact that most fandom discussion has migrated to places like Tumblr and Reddit. Plus, WoW's long in the tooth.
I am sure it is multiple things. It was more of an answer to why this is the most active thread in the forums. We lose people faster than we gain them and it seems we lost a few over the past few weeks. We need to rejuvenate it if we want more people.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:02 PM
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I am sure it is multiple things. It was more of an answer to why this is the most active thread in the forums. We lose people faster than we gain them and it seems we lost a few over the past few weeks. We need to rejuvenate it if we want more people.
If them mods can successfully rebrand as a general geekery forum, they may be able to draw more people. I don't think WoW has much of a future, so it'll be tough to get many new posters based on that.
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:53 PM
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I think it has more an issue to do with vBulletin than anything else. Reddit is a much more popular forum engine these days. And tumblr is a strange and fascinating corner of the web, since it has RP, asks, porn...
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Old 07-04-2017, 06:26 AM
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I think it has more an issue to do with vBulletin than anything else. Reddit is a much more popular forum engine these days. And tumblr is a strange and fascinating corner of the web, since it has RP, asks, porn...
I agree. It's not so much the death of WoW (which is still pretty popular in the right circles - just take a look at the r/wow subreddit.) or anything else. The vBulletin style of forum seems to be on the downturn more than anything. People seem to prefer the reddit/tumblr/twitter type communities nowadays. And it makes sense. This site is harder to use and is much slower on mobile than those aforementioned. If your shit doesn't work well on a smartphone, you are dead in the water, simple as that. Welcome to 2017, fools!
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Old 07-04-2017, 08:46 AM
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I agree. It's not so much the death of WoW (which is still pretty popular in the right circles - just take a look at the r/wow subreddit.) or anything else. The vBulletin style of forum seems to be on the downturn more than anything. People seem to prefer the reddit/tumblr/twitter type communities nowadays. And it makes sense. This site is harder to use and is much slower on mobile than those aforementioned. If your shit doesn't work well on a smartphone, you are dead in the water, simple as that. Welcome to 2017, fools!
Yeah, the site's still pretty slow for me.

I like Reddit okay, but I've always had difficulty navigating Tumblr. Twitter is a cancer upon society and should be destroyed.
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Old 07-04-2017, 08:52 AM
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Yeah, the site's still pretty slow for me.

I like Reddit okay, but I've always had difficulty navigating Tumblr. Twitter is a cancer upon society and should be destroyed.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:22 AM
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Twitter's 140-character limit makes it ill-suited as a venue for discussion. All you can really do is shout slogans or trade images. Twitter is anti-literate.

Reddit at least gives you space to formulate coherent thoughts.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:54 AM
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I think it has more an issue to do with vBulletin than anything else. Reddit is a much more popular forum engine these days. And tumblr is a strange and fascinating corner of the web, since it has RP, asks, porn...
I actually far prefer the vBulletin style. It is better than any of the ones you listed for a discussion. Reddit is good for one main topic with lots of single replies but it is bad for a back and forth, something vB excels at. Tumblr to me is just abysmal for discussions from what I've seen of it.

To me reddit is winning because it is A) huge and B) for a lack of a better word, anonymous. You can pop into reddit, talk and read for a bit and leave. There is not much community on most reddits, and consequently not much connection, pretty much fire and forget. But on old style forums personal connections and reputation matter much more.

Anyway in terms of growing SoL and rebranding it into a more of a general nerdery (other settings, more gaming, gadgets and general media) site, it could work and I think more people would be nice though I'd also not like us to become a mega-site which would kind of take the soul of this place. Though I don't expect us to get enough people for that to become an issue so
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:56 AM
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Twitter's 140-character limit makes it ill-suited as a venue for discussion. All you can really do is shout slogans or trade images. Twitter is anti-literate.

Reddit at least gives you space to formulate coherent thoughts.
Reddit's up or down vote feature turns it into an echo chamber though.
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:18 AM
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Seems healthier than its been in years, so many old faces popped up over the last week
Content quality is shit, though. Years ago posts were insightful, now some users just post memes and bullshit all the time, no matter the thread. Before, having a lot of posts meant respect, now it doesn't mean anything at all.

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I actually far prefer the vBulletin style. It is better than any of the ones you listed for a discussion. Reddit is good for one main topic with lots of single replies but it is bad for a back and forth, something vB excels at. Tumblr to me is just abysmal for discussions from what I've seen of it.

To me reddit is winning because it is A) huge and B) for a lack of a better word, anonymous. You can pop into reddit, talk and read for a bit and leave. There is not much community on most reddits, and consequently not much connection, pretty much fire and forget. But on old style forums personal connections and reputation matter much more.

Anyway in terms of growing SoL and rebranding it into a more of a general nerdery (other settings, more gaming, gadgets and general media) site, it could work and I think more people would be nice though I'd also not like us to become a mega-site which would kind of take the soul of this place. Though I don't expect us to get enough people for that to become an issue so
Reddit's problem is that threads only stay up 1-2 days, and that the vote system (specially downvotes) is pointless and only good for abuse and circlejerking.

The way comments are classified is pretty good, and helps follow discussions easily.
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:23 AM
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:29 AM
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Reddit's up or down vote feature turns it into an echo chamber though.
It does, and I think vBulletin is preferable to Reddit for this (and other) reasons. However, you can at least write out full sentences and put some thought into what you create. The design of Twitter is such to discourage thought or nuance, because the character limit is a disincentive for incorporating actual reasoning or nuance. Twitter is an awful platform.
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:48 AM
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Twitter wasn't intended to be a place for discussion, more so just a place to post what are essentially Facebook statuses. That it's evolved the way it has is kind of insane.

And I agree that upvote/downvote systems are awful. They're a big part of why I avoid Reddit.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:52 AM
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Hammer gets permabanned. Honors his punishment and remains permabanned.

Slowpoke gets permabanned. Evades his ban so long that mods give up on banning him, he continues posting like nothing ever happened.

Quality moderating, guys. I love the integrity of the staff and their commitment to enforcing the rules. Top notch.
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:58 AM
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Hammer gets permabanned. Honors his punishment and remains permabanned.

Slowpoke gets permabanned. Evades his ban so long that mods give up on banning him, he continues posting like nothing ever happened.
I mean, you're dragging up some pretty old shit here. Slowpoke was a disaster, we all know that. But do you really think he should set a precedent?
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:19 AM
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Hammer gets permabanned. Honors his punishment and remains permabanned.

Slowpoke gets permabanned. Evades his ban so long that mods give up on banning him, he continues posting like nothing ever happened.

Quality moderating, guys. I love the integrity of the staff and their commitment to enforcing the rules. Top notch.
Right now, we're focusing on people who are directly abusing others and updating forum rules and functionality. We'll get back to SPK in due time.
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