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Old 10-31-2009, 11:03 AM
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OK, another noob question from me. In fact, it's something I haven't even thought about until today. Me and a friend were having this interesting Warcraft discussion and somehow we came to the brown orcs and why they were shunned by the rest of the Horde, the whole demon blood thing and so on. We were going on about Durotan and Thrall when the question struck us. In fact it was brought forth by my bro was listening while reading some manga on his laptop. He suddenly joined: "OK guys, if the original orcs were brown how the hell is Thrall green when he never had any interaction with the blood/was never part of the old Horde? And how is his dad green when he never drank the blood?" It actually came out of the blue, me and my friend stood there for 1 or 2 minutes and didn't know what to say simply because we never thought about it. Then we found an easy way out - "Listen nublet, Durotan had a strong exposure to warlock magic, and even though he never drank the blood, the long time spent in the bloodthirsty Horde changed his skin color from brown to green." Me and my friend both agreed on this theory since we couldn't think of any better explanation and the case was closed. But it kept bugging me... So guys do you have any valid explanation about this? Yes, I know by the time Blizzard created Thrall, they haven't yet come up with the whole "brown orcs before the corruption" thingy, but from a lore perspective how would you justify Thrall's and Durotan's green color? How did their color change to green since Durotan never drank the blood and Thrall wasn't even born on Draenor and never had any contact with warlock/fel magic?
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:05 AM
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OK, another noob question from me. In fact, it's something I haven't even thought about until today. Me and a friend were having this interesting Warcraft discussion and somehow we came to the brown orcs and why they were shunned by the rest of the Horde, the whole demon blood thing and so on. We were going on about Durotan and Thrall when the question struck us. In fact it was brought forth by my bro was listening while reading some manga on his laptop. He suddenly joined: "OK guys, if the original orcs were brown how the hell is Thrall green when he never had any interaction with the blood/was never part of the old Horde? And how is his dad green when he never drank the blood?" It actually came out of the blue, me and my friend stood there for 1 or 2 minutes and didn't know what to say simply because we never thought about it. Then we found an easy way out - "Listen nublet, Durotan had a strong exposure to warlock magic, and even though he never drank the blood, the long time spent in the bloodthirsty Horde changed his skin color from brown to green." Me and my friend both agreed on this theory since we couldn't think of any better explanation and the case was closed. But it kept bugging me... So guys do you have any valid explanation about this? Yes, I know by the time Blizzard created Thrall, they haven't yet come up with the whole "brown orcs before the corruption" thingy, but from a lore perspective how would you justify Thrall's and Durotan's green color? How did their color change to green since Durotan never drank the blood and Thrall wasn't even born on Draenor and never had any contact with warlock/fel magic?
Read "Rise of the Horde". That's all I'm gonna say, unless you reply with "I did and it doesn't say anything", to which I post a facepalm pic, and probably one of Dr. House calling you a moron.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:07 AM
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Pretty much that, yeah. Plus, Green orc skin is hereditary, you can't go back to brown.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:11 AM
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Read "Rise of the Horde". That's all I'm gonna say, unless you reply with "I did and it doesn't say anything", to which I post a facepalm pic, and probably one of Dr. House calling you a moron.
My bad then, indeed, I never read tho book so I couldn't possibly know what it says on the matter. I'll get to reading it anyway, but can you briefly summarize the explanation here, please?
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:14 AM
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My bad then, indeed, I never read tho book so I couldn't possibly know what it says on the matter. I'll get to reading it anyway, but can you briefly summarize the explanation here, please?
Pretty much that the fel magics that turned the orcs green didn't just effect the warlocks; they rubbed on all orcs and even the land. It's why Outland is dying, it's why every orc baby is green. The demonic magics permeated the orcish way of life to a point that it irrevocably altered their DNA.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:19 AM
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Pretty much that the fel magics that turned the orcs green didn't just effect the warlocks; they rubbed on all orcs and even the land. It's why Outland is dying, it's why every orc baby is green. The demonic magics permeated the orcish way of life to a point that it irrevocably altered their DNA.
OK, thanks dude! So it's basically pretty much the same as me and my friend's theory that Durotan's exposure to warlock/fel magic changed his skin color and it was translated to his offspring. We were on the right track all along, baby.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:41 PM
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Pretty much that, yeah. Plus, Green orc skin is hereditary, you can't go back to brown.
To be fair, Oma, we don't actually know if there is a method for reversing it. It is hereditary, but it is hereditary via Fel mutation. Perhaps at some point the Earthen ring or something will figure out a way to reverse it.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:32 PM
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To be fair, Oma, we don't actually know if there is a method for reversing it. It is hereditary, but it is hereditary via Fel mutation. Perhaps at some point the Earthen ring or something will figure out a way to reverse it.
I hope not.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:42 PM
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Pretty much that, yeah. Plus, Green orc skin is hereditary, you can't go back to brown.
For now.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:09 PM
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:13 PM
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Maybe it will turn out to be a recessive gene? Just so far they keep hitting the wrong odds.

Wait reverse that. Maybe it will turn out that brown was turned into a recessive gene versus just eliminated. So slowly more brown orcs will start appearing.

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Old 10-31-2009, 10:33 PM
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Maybe it will turn out to be a recessive gene? Just so far they keep hitting the wrong odds.

Wait reverse that. Maybe it will turn out that brown was turned into a recessive gene versus just eliminated. So slowly more brown orcs will start appearing.
Again, I hope not. That is, unless Orcs and Mag'har start interbreeding. Then I'm okay with it
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:05 PM
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Again, I hope not. That is, unless Orcs and Mag'har start interbreeding. Then I'm okay with it
Well that could be another option.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:17 AM
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Again, I hope not. That is, unless Orcs and Mag'har start interbreeding. Then I'm okay with it
OR it could be a mixed gene and when Orcs and Mag'har start interbreeding, the offspring turn the color of baby shit.
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