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Old 09-16-2017, 08:23 AM
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Those sources all backed Hillary Clinton. Are they unbiased?
They certainly are biased. They are just unaware of their own biases or think they are clever at hiding it.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:26 AM
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Well, that's not my problem. I gave you an advice, what you make of it is your choice in the end.
Yeah, forgive me but i don't really feel it was given in good faith


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They certainly are biased. They are just unaware of their own biases or think they are clever at hiding it.
Why don't you and Mertico provide evidence of your claims?

Or is it only Republicans that can support a candidate without being biased?

Are you such superior human beings that supporting trump doesn't make you buased butnother people supporting clinton or sanders does?

You are hypocrites
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:28 AM
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Well, that's not my problem. I gave you an advice, what you make of it is your choice in the end.
You tried your best.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:31 AM
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They certainly are biased. They are just unaware of their own biases or think they are clever at hiding it.
As opposed to your own sources?
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:38 AM
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As opposed to your own sources?
They are convinced of the moral and intellectual superiority of people who are like them, they cannit accept others who disagree as being moral, intelligent, or hardworking,

To Pj, the fact that someone is a liberal means they're lazy and stupid

To Mertico we are liars and parasites

There's no discussion, no analysis of evidence, no self reflection

If something supports their PoV it is true, if something does not fit it, then it is a lie or an anomaly

No one has any life experiences that justify disagreeing with them, we should just be silent and grateful that our supeiors haven't killed us all yet, as PJ says over and over they are better fighters than us so we should just be quiet about inequality, it's all just a lie thatbwe were brainwashed to believe anyway right?
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:41 AM
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As opposed to your own sources?
I never said I was unbiased. I try to be transparent instead. There is less dogma in that.

Use analytic skills on sources. That is where critical thinking should come in. Skepticism and the humility that you may not know the answer right away or ever. You don't have to persuade everyone right away and sometimes you can only reach a reasonable compromise instead of objective truth when it comes to politics. That understanding comes with the acceptance of ambiguity and nuance that is sorely missing.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:43 AM
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:27 PM
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"Everyone I diagree with is a liar" isn't a criticism Mertico, it just shows you have no real defense for people who support Trump attacking others
Not everyone who disagrees with you is biased. Maybe you're just wrong.
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:11 PM
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Not everyone who disagrees with you is biased.

Maybe you're just wrong.
Oh I know but I have two questions for you


1. Who then are you referring to?

2. Why don't you consider that as well?
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:13 PM
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Oh I know but I have two questions for you


1. Who then are you referring to?

2. Why don't you consider that as well?
Myself, because I'm right.
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:17 AM
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:47 AM
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Myself, because I'm right.
Is this the part where it's permissible to call trolling?
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Old 09-17-2017, 11:18 AM
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Is this the part where it's permissible to call trolling?
Pretty sure he actually believes it
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Old 09-17-2017, 12:24 PM
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Is this the part where it's permissible to call trolling?
Being the most right-wing person left on the forum and also an America, isn't safe to assume that I know why the alt-right even exists?
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Old 09-17-2017, 12:27 PM
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Being the most right-wing person left on the forum and also an America, isn't safe to assume that I know why the alt-right even exists?
Is that what's in question? I thought you just meant that you were right in general.

I think it means you're perspective is valuable, if not necessarily complete.
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Old 09-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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Being the most right-wing person left on the forum and also an America, isn't safe to assume that I know why the alt-right even exists?
Can you restate that then?

Why does the alt-right exist?
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Old 09-17-2017, 06:49 PM
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Is that what's in question? I thought you just meant that you were right in general.

I think it means you're perspective is valuable, if not necessarily complete.
My mind has gotten me pretty far and comfortable in life. Why not trust my mind in other places too?
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Old 09-17-2017, 07:39 PM
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Being the most right-wing person left on the forum and also an America, isn't safe to assume that I know why the alt-right even exists?
You were asking me the question, but maybe I should ask you. In an America with tensions between whites vs. blacks, Arabs, and Hispanics... why in the world are Jews even relevant?

Those Charlottesville boys could've been chanting "Brownies go home", or "The South will rise again", or "No more nigger nation", and I would've understood it. Why were they wasting time on "Jews will not replace us"?

How is that even on the radar? How does that take priority over immigration, terrorism, and actual racial tensions in modern America?

(And will the alt-right protesters stay home when Secretary Benjamin's memorials are taken down in Louisiana and Florida?)

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Old 09-17-2017, 07:56 PM
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Can you restate that then?

Why does the alt-right exist?
The alt-right exists because Western European peoples are going to be minorities in their own countries within the next 100 years. It is a return to form for Western politics, it is not something new.

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You were asking me the question, but maybe I should ask you. In an America with tensions between whites vs. blacks, Arabs, and Hispanics... why in the world are Jews even relevant?

Those Charlottesville boys could've been chanting "Brownies go home", or "The South will rise again", or "No more nigger nation", and I would've understood it. Why were they wasting time on "Jews will not replace us"?

How is that even on the radar? How does that take priority over immigration, terrorism, and actual racial tensions in modern America?

(And will the alt-right protesters stay home when Secretary Benjamin's memorials are taken down in Louisiana and Florida?)
The Neoconfederates, Nazis, and so forth are not alt-right. They overlap, but it's not the same. There are many groups that are right of the neocons that have run the Republican party for the past fifty or so years. You have to make that distinction first. As far as I know the people who chanted and ran around with tiki torches were alt-right. The Neoconfederates would defend the statue of Benjamin, the alt-right would not but I am just guessing on that. The alt-right's dislike of Jews is one part Hitler and a real or perceived view that Jews are over represented in politics, pro-immigration movements, and far-left groups.
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:33 PM
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You were asking me the question, but maybe I should ask you. In an America with tensions between whites vs. blacks, Arabs, and Hispanics... why in the world are Jews even relevant?

Those Charlottesville boys could've been chanting "Brownies go home", or "The South will rise again", or "No more nigger nation", and I would've understood it. Why were they wasting time on "Jews will not replace us"?

How is that even on the radar? How does that take priority over immigration, terrorism, and actual racial tensions in modern America?

(And will the alt-right protesters stay home when Secretary Benjamin's memorials are taken down in Louisiana and Florida?)


Were they saying 'Jews' or 'you'? They sound similar but the later would make more sense.
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:44 PM
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Were they saying 'Jews' or 'you'? They sound similar but the later would make more sense.
There's no mistaking it if you listen to the video that wasn't used by the right-wing media.

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Old 09-17-2017, 08:53 PM
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My mind has gotten me pretty far and comfortable in life. Why not trust my mind in other places too?
For one thing, I'm not convinced it exists.
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Old 09-18-2017, 03:27 AM
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You were asking me the question, but maybe I should ask you. In an America with tensions between whites vs. blacks, Arabs, and Hispanics... why in the world are Jews even relevant?
First of all, it is important to remember that these hyper-nationalist groups, no matter their difference, are at their core reactionary, feeding off the disenfranchised working class in a result of breaking the status quo. Something that has certainly been happening over the past decade.

But why Jews? Well, it has everything to do with what the slogan truly means. For those who might be confused, "Jews will not replace us" does not refer to being replaced with Jews, but to being replaced with blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, etc, by Jews, stemming from the belief that a multicultural society is far, far easier to control and exploit.

That being said, why such a surge in the recent past? A possible answer lies in a combination of the continuous shift of the media and entertainment’s outlook (hence the reaction), the general assumption that Jews own a majority of these subsets (hence the control), and the human need (especially among those less educated) to look for an organized control behind vast changes, instead of a chaotic play of powers. This would give enough persuasion power to once a very limited fringe group, spreading their ideals far and wide, even among those who would not be associated with them directly.
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Old 09-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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Like, I don't know if you're joking or not but this is ridiculous either way

It'd be like me saying

"I guess you can only really consider things fair when you call people you disagree with terrorists then?"

The old name was indicative of the jackassery that'd kind of taken over the forum and the name prior to the Nindo one was about as bad imo
Just open the 1st page, this was meant to be a thread where we mock SJW excess (and reactionary excess). There was, back then, a legit SJW thread created by Sarah who then later nuked the thread because she grew disgusted by it, IIRC.
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Old 09-18-2017, 04:40 PM
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For one thing, I'm not convinced it exists.
Everyday my mind makes thousands of decisions and accumulatively it works out pretty well for me in the long run.
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