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Old 09-19-2017, 12:36 AM
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If I recall this isn't the first time. It's funny how he tries to get around getting caught by spouting crap in the Warcraft section instead.
Eh, he was actually a decent poster when it came to Warcraft. What exactly was he reported for this time?
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:55 AM
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Eh, he was actually a decent poster when it came to Warcraft. What exactly was he reported for this time?
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:27 AM
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That's why Slowpoke is still here, derailing threads after threads (funny how he even attempted to detail Galdus-Almed's thread on the Alliance Undead)?

But I wasn't really asking why he was banned, that is pretty much clear, but what was he reported for?
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:42 AM
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:54 AM
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That's why Slowpoke is still here, derailing threads after threads (funny how he even attempted to detail Galdus-Almed's thread on the Alliance Undead)?

But I wasn't really asking why he was banned, that is pretty much clear, but what was he reported for?
We were asked to perform an IP check by posters who suspected foul play. He wasn't caught due to reports.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:01 AM
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We were asked to perform an IP check by posters who suspected foul play. He wasn't caught due to reports.
I do not follow. If posters asked for something to be checked on, isn't that a report?
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:09 AM
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Little of A, little of B. The user requests weren't via the reporting system, but for the sake of simplicity the term "reports" was used as a catch-all for user interaction with staff.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:07 PM
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I do not follow. If posters asked for something to be checked on, isn't that a report?
Kinda. What I meant is that his behaviour wasn't reported on, which is what Marthen was wondering about, if I understood him correctly.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:25 PM
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Kinda. What I meant is that his behaviour wasn't reported on, which is what Marthen was wondering about, if I understood him correctly.
What about him made him stand out this time? What tipped you off?
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:39 PM
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Very. Not trying to avoid it either, I've just had a very packed few weeks. God knows why, but they have weekend homework assignments these days. I had a better work/life balance in my last job.
Alright, glad to see you are principled if not diligent.


Anyhow don't want to make a big fuss about it but I feel Galdus/Almed should be given a second chance. He was another of those people who get permabanned out of the blue, IIRC he never even got a temp ban let alone a final warning as is now the case. His return shows that he is capable of being alright. He mostly stuck to lore threads and was a decent poster from what I've seen and he didn't show the kind of behavior that got him banned.
Lay it out to him what will get him banned, the part of his previous posting that was offensive (racial epithets mainly, I'm guessing) and maybe even limit him to warcraft subsections of the forum.

Given the circumstances of his banning, the new rules, the fact he was never acidic and his attempted reform as Almed I think he deserves a second chance. I feel this is a matter of principle even though personally I am not a fan of him so not gonna make a crusade out of this, just some food for thought.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:43 PM
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What about him made him stand out this time? What tipped you off?
That is something you'd have to ask those posters who contact us, but I would not be surprised if his latest posts in the Legion thread had something to do with it.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:49 PM
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Alright, glad to see you are principled if not diligent.


Anyhow don't want to make a big fuss about it but I feel Galdus/Almed should be given a second chance. He was another of those people who get permabanned out of the blue, IIRC he never even got a temp ban let alone a final warning as is now the case. His return shows that he is capable of being alright. He mostly stuck to lore threads and was a decent poster from what I've seen and he didn't show the kind of behavior that got him banned.
Lay it out to him what will get him banned, the part of his previous posting that was offensive (racial epithets mainly, I'm guessing) and maybe even limit him to warcraft subsections of the forum.

Given the circumstances of his banning, the new rules, the fact he was never acidic and his attempted reform as Almed I think he deserves a second chance. I feel this is a matter of principle even though personally I am not a fan of him so not gonna make a crusade out of this, just some food for thought.
I think there is an issue since he's not the only poster to have snuck back in under a different name. The other poster who did this, however, has gone unpunished.

The lack of consistency is the problem.

And it was Galdus's behavior that got him banned rather than his opinions. There are other posters here who basically share his opinions, but they behave themselves and don't harass people, so they stay.
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:41 PM
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That is something you'd have to ask those posters who contact us, but I would not be surprised if his latest posts in the Legion thread had something to do with it.
Alright, thanks. I was just curious.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:10 PM
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:57 PM
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You might ask what tipped her off:
The Tacoland post was probably it, but all the same the mods must have suspected something for awhile.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:52 AM
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I think there is an issue since he's not the only poster to have snuck back in under a different name. The other poster who did this, however, has gone unpunished.

The lack of consistency is the problem.

And it was Galdus's behavior that got him banned rather than his opinions. There are other posters here who basically share his opinions, but they behave themselves and don't harass people, so they stay.
There's an internal debate over the other user you're talking about. Enough staff members don't find him problematic enough to continue trying to stop his OCD need to be here (believe me, we tried). Personally, I believe he's a subtle, but significant detriment to the forum (due to various reasons I don't have time to list out/argue). Still, I'm in the minority on this, so we grudgingly let him exist here. I should note that "grudging" is an understatement.
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:52 AM
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And it was Galdus's behavior that got him banned rather than his opinions. There are other posters here who basically share his opinions, but they behave themselves and don't harass people, so they stay.
Actually I totally disagree. Galdus was one of the tamest posters around IIRC, he would post his charts and then disengage. When he was vitriolic it was mainly in regards to his gripes with the Blizz-devs, what he never did was target individuals.

His opinions I understand can piss people off, I don't want to even enter the debate about the accuracy of the information he kept spreading, but again he never went after posters or had vendettas. The language he used imo is the biggest issue (dindu for example) but that was a time when SoL was deregulated and a lot of things were said. That is the biggest issue for me, it was all fun and games and then he was nuked out of the blue. No warning, no temp ban. I have the same gripe with Hammer's banning.

Anyway I think his Almed persona showed restraint and reformation, mainly staying in the lore threads (which he seems to genuinely care about) and did not repeat the things that got him banned. So given the dodgy way he got banned a second chance is in order (Hammer's case is similar).

As you put it, the issue is about principles. Though admittedly I am mostly just putting this out there, don't have the time or energy to campaign over this.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:37 AM
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Actually I totally disagree. Galdus was one of the tamest posters around IIRC, he would post his charts and then disengage. When he was vitriolic it was mainly in regards to his gripes with the Blizz-devs, what he never did was target individuals.

His opinions I understand can piss people off, I don't want to even enter the debate about the accuracy of the information he kept spreading, but again he never went after posters or had vendettas. The language he used imo is the biggest issue (dindu for example) but that was a time when SoL was deregulated and a lot of things were said. That is the biggest issue for me, it was all fun and games and then he was nuked out of the blue. No warning, no temp ban. I have the same gripe with Hammer's banning.

Anyway I think his Almed persona showed restraint and reformation, mainly staying in the lore threads (which he seems to genuinely care about) and did not repeat the things that got him banned. So given the dodgy way he got banned a second chance is in order (Hammer's case is similar).

As you put it, the issue is about principles. Though admittedly I am mostly just putting this out there, don't have the time or energy to campaign over this.
I remember him going out of his way to be pretty insulting. But it's mostly that he didn't seem able to actually hold a conversation. He'd throw stats, make some comment about "muh social justice" and then leave. As I said earlier, I'm not sure he'd pass a Turing test. He was basically a chatbot.

Hammer got vitriolic, but he could hold a good conversation. I wouldn't compare him to Galdus because Hammer had a lot more to offer.

But I'll take your word for it that Almed/Galdus was able to actually converse in the WoW parts of the forum.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:43 AM
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That's why Slowpoke is still here, derailing threads after threads (funny how he even attempted to detail Galdus-Almed's thread on the Alliance Undead)?

But I wasn't really asking why he was banned, that is pretty much clear, but what was he reported for?
WTF is this? This got nothing to do with me, STOP bringing me up again and again.
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I remember him going out of his way to be pretty insulting. But it's mostly that he didn't seem able to actually hold a conversation. He'd throw stats, make some comment about "muh social justice" and then leave. As I said earlier, I'm not sure he'd pass a Turing test. He was basically a chatbot.

Hammer got vitriolic, but he could hold a good conversation. I wouldn't compare him to Galdus because Hammer had a lot more to offer.

But I'll take your word for it that Almed/Galdus was able to actually converse in the WoW parts of the forum.
I agree that Hammer was far more agreeable and valuable, I'd let him back in with the understanding that he has to keep his temper in check.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:02 AM
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I agree that Hammer was far more agreeable and valuable, I'd let him back in with the understanding that he has to keep his temper in check.
Agreed.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:12 AM
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I still don't remember being able to have a civilized conversation with Hammer.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:16 AM
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I still don't remember being able to have a civilized conversation with Hammer.
You only engaged with him in politics.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:22 AM
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You only engaged with him in politics.
I remember filing at least two incidents away in which that was not true.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:25 AM
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You only engaged with him in politics.
No, the dude was incapable of normal conversation. You could talk about the weather and he would accuse you of being a globalist cuck for enjoying the breeze.
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