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Old 01-07-2014, 01:05 AM
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As a friendly advice: unless you already did it, go to your options and look if "Download on demand" is checked. If so, uncheck, end the game and start the launcher. This will download the rest of the game; it will take another night or so, depending on your connection, but it's worth it because the game is chock-full of loading screens. (it's like WoW's Streaming, just with less streaming and more downloading while changing maps.)





For technical stuff yeah. Easily.
No, I already unchecked patch on demand.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:13 AM
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I just wanna throw my two cents in on STO. It's a fun game if you like the idea of spaceship combat with Trek ships. It's not really a Trek game, I mean one mission has you fly inside a Voth city ship and blow it up Death Star style, killing who knows how many millions. But you do get to fly around in Trek ships and be cool.

Starship design is...middling. The older 'new' ships all look hideous, but stuff like the Odyssey or Regent (a Sovereign upgrade) manage to look alright. Klingon stuff looks like Klingon stuff, but I am not a Klingon fan so I cannot comment. And gods help you if you're a Romulan fan, their original Romulan ships look like ass. (And unrelated but of course the Scimitar is Romulan and you can fly and it's overpowered and fuck the Scimitar, ugly hunk of space trash ) Also the Voth ships are...questionable. One looks like a dildo.


STO is very much a game to play in bursts. There's no real long term content that takes over a month or so, so it can get grindy just logging in everyday to cap out dil. But for those short bursts of fun spaceship combat, you can do worse.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:30 AM
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One looks like a dildo.
And i would happily fly one if i had the money. I especially like the clit-tickler-section at the bottom.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:40 AM
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And i would happily fly one if i had the money. I especially like the clit-tickler-section at the bottom.
If you get one the only acceptable name is the Rampaging Rabbit.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:09 AM
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:34 PM
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Back in November, I saw an article (http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/11/ru...ment-for-2014/) mentioning two possible new ST series, but it looks like they are trying to capitalize on some CSI/3rd Watch action. What do you guys think?
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:37 PM
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Back in November, I saw an article (http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/11/ru...ment-for-2014/) mentioning two possible new ST series, but it looks like they are trying to capitalize on some CSI/3rd Watch action. What do you guys think?
Sounds horrible.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:34 PM
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Yes, it does sound horrible. A police procedural, and a medical drama? Won't work with a setting like Star Trek.

So, yeah, I played STO yesterday. So far, enjoyed it a lot, although ground combat is poor. The enemies are slow to respond, it feels artificial, but the shooter mode is okay.
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Old 01-08-2014, 12:49 AM
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Tip for start-ups: don't bother with restricting yourself to your class's ship line when leveling. Try out all three lines (Escort, Cruiser, Science) to see which one you like best, and fly the ships you like instead of those that "fit" the best. You're not going to ride them for too long anyway and it will give you a good idea of what you want to fly when you're starting to spend Zen for your first high end ship. (though you can get pretty good entry ships for VERY cheap if you look for mirror universe ships on the exchange. They are basically cheap high end ships nearly on Zen Store level; they're cheapness mostly comes from the BOFF-seats, i think, and the fact that they are an infestation of Lock Boxes - they are everywhere.)
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Old 01-08-2014, 12:39 PM
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Bought myself the Ning'Tao Bird of Prey.

Boy, those Quad Cannons are very stylish on a Bortasqu', especially when they fire in conjunction with the Autocannon.
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Old 01-08-2014, 01:01 PM
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Sadly the best cheap ships are escorts. Setting up a good cruiser pretty much REQUIRES a zen store ship. Though when you consider you can use one ship forever, if you really enjoy the game 25$ isn't bad if you just consider that buying a box copy. Alternatively earning one only takes a month or so of 8k dil per day.
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Old 01-08-2014, 11:51 PM
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Farming 8k dilithium would be easy?
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:52 AM
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Farming 8k dilithium would be easy?
With the right premade group it's trivial. Using the Group Finder can take a while. If you're a good player with high dps or a tanking cruiser expect to carry your group through most STFs by yourself - unless a bored Scimitar is with you, in that case just sit back and look at the thing being OP.
In general 8K / day is pretty easy, but time consuming if you have bad luck with random groups (which is to say, always - the randoms in this game are bad. Worse than LFR). The real trick is getting 8K Dil on ALL your characters - because the limit is not accountwide. With the three char slots you get you could potentially get 24K per day, and by using the Dil exchange you can get all your Dil on 1 character - it's not bound.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:07 AM
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What is the time(in gmt) at which servers have max population daily? And how is the population of the game?
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:14 AM
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What is the time(in gmt) at which servers have max population daily? And how is the population of the game?
The game has only one server, Holodeck (technically there is also the PTR called Tribble, but that one doesn't count because i say so.), which is shared by all players worldwide, so there really are no rush hours. Random Space Instances are usually fairly quick to open and asking around in the STF-channel always yields fast results (results may vary in the DPS channels). There are copious amounts of guilds (called Fleets) hailing (pun intended) from all over the world; no doubt you will find one in your time zone, though you might want to ask around before you join one; endgame equipment comes from Fleet Vendors and are sold for your own ressources plus Fleet Provisions which needs to be farmed (and invested into) by Fleet Members, meaning that most Fleets will require you to contribute loads and loads of materials until you can buy something. Look into the Kodiak Legion; they're fairly tame in this regard.

As for population it's not really an issue - the game has many instances per map and once one is full, it just opens the next (for example there can be a dozen ESD-maps open if enough players are online); you can zone into other instances at will, provided they are not full. Unless you bring company the majority of quests (here called missions) will have you in instanced maps, though.

Generally Federation-side the game seems almost too full of players some times.
Klingon-wise things are different. While the way the map system works will always give you the illusion of a well populated faction Klingons are scarse in reality, especially if you like to play PVE content. Their birth as PvP-faction only is still affecting their reputation and it's not been that long a while ago since their quest content sucked major ass. Queuing up for an STF will bring along an invite sooner or later, but be prepared for it to be later more often than not.
Romulans have their own "Capital", so to speak, in a Fleet that functions as your early hot spot, but since Romulans are fairly new and choose allegiance to either Alliance or Horde... sorry, Federation or Klingons, the Fleet (which i like to call the Migrant Fleet; i don't play a Romulan so i tend to forget it's designation) seems kind of empty most of the time.

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TrekMovie: So should we consider that website canon? For example, all that you just described is not actually in the movie correct?

Roberto Orci: Right. I guess until it is in a movie or a show, technically right, isn’t that correct? I would have to check with the rest of the Supreme Court, but I would think that anything that is considered a promotional website is not canon. [...] I don’t think that is for me to decide. As you know I considered some of the books, in my mind, to be of character canon. And some of them in between the movies to possibly be even possible candidates for canon, until some other movie comes along and makes those impossible. That is my personal view, but I am not going to declare whether comics are canon.

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cugel the clever: In “Countdown”, the Narada effortlessly destroyed an armada of 24th century Klingon warships and disabled the Enterprise-E with one volley. However, in the film, the Kelvin (and early 23rd century ship) actually managed to exchange fire and survive for at least several minutes. It even managed to damage the Narada by ramming it. Logically, this makes no sense…. it should have been destroyed immediately (and Kirk&mother killed) given the firepower possessed by the Narada. This is like the Merrimac surviving a firefight with the Bismark. Care to explain this inconsistency?

BobOrci: Easy. The comic is not canon?

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Old 01-09-2014, 12:19 PM
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Romulans have their own "Capital", so to speak, in a Fleet that functions as your early hot spot, but since Romulans are fairly new and choose allegiance to either Alliance or Horde... sorry, Federation or Klingons, the Fleet (which i like to call the Migrant Fleet; i don't play a Romulan so i tend to forget it's designation) seems kind of empty most of the time.
First, you miss the Romulan Scout Ship, now you're not even aware of New Romulus which has New Romulus Command as the "ESD" for Romulans. The Flotilla only serves as main hub until you help settle New Romulus.

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Old 01-09-2014, 12:25 PM
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To be fair i know of New Romulus but it was introduced to me as a daily area instead of the Romulan Hub.
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To be fair i know of New Romulus but it was introduced to me as a daily area instead of the Romulan Hub.
New Romulus Command is populated more than the Flotilla but most lvl 50 Romulans still hang around on ESD or Quo'Nos, due to NRC lacking a Security Officer and an academy.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:09 AM
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So, population isn't a matter of any concern, for there is only one server which would always have lots of players online at any time, right?
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Exactly.
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Old 01-11-2014, 02:51 AM
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This game is really underrated by people. I agree that ground combat is not good and feels artificial, although the shooter mode is slightly better but not much, but everything else is very good indeed so far.




Speaking of underration, I was just thinking that Shatner is really an underrated actor. He may have a weird speaking style, but in TOS 1st two seasons and Wrath of Khan, he acted very well indeed, particularly in the episodes 'The Enemy Within'(as the good Kirk, he portrayed helplessness and dejection very well indeed) and 'City on the Edge of Forever'.

Star Trek 5 ruined his reputation, I think. Not to mention the fact that Doohan and Takei didn't really get along with him.
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Star Trek 5 ruined his reputation, I think.
To some extent, yes, but besides the part below... it's not like he didn't deserve his rep to be ruined by Star Trek 5, it was his disaster, after all.


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Not really their fault either. One of the more interesting quotes of Shatner is when he took one of... i think it was Koenig's line and told him to step aside so that he would be out of the camera.

Shatner's a ham, a super egotist and a dick. So is Kirk, most of the time, and he's a casual racist towards Spock to boot.

Why DO people like Kirk?
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Old 01-11-2014, 03:20 AM
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Shatner's a ham, a super egotist and a dick. So is Kirk, most of the time, and he's a casual racist towards Spock to boot.

Why DO people like Kirk?
Kirk, racist? It's more like the other way round. Vulcans were quite racist, and I am surprised that nobody, besides McCoy, had any problem with that. Kirk never ever said anything bad about Vulcans, and always took the middle ground between the trio.

Spock mellowed in later life, but all the Vulcans in TOS were racist and arrogant as hell, even Sarek. See Amok Time and Journey to Babel.

And really, Kirk was neither arrogant, nor a egoist. He was willing to learn from other people, he risked his life and career many times for his crew, and he was willing to take risks. He may have hated Klingons because of his son's death, but can you blame him for that?


Nor was he a playboy. He had like a total of five romances throughout TOS, which was five years long in canon, and he definitely wanted to marry them, but they ended up dead, or became villains.

The Myth of Kirk's womanizing

How long has it been since you saw TOS? Because really, the only thing in which Kirk seemed arrogant was Star Trek 5. I know all this because I saw all of TOS only 6-8 months ago.

And honestly, Deforest Kelley wasn't supposed to be a main character. He made his character charismatic and popular, and so, he got an important role. Takei didn't have any charisma as Sulu whatsoever. Doohan actually did have quite a lot of significance in TOS.

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Old 01-11-2014, 03:29 AM
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Spock mellowed in later life, but all the Vulcans in TOS were racist and arrogant as hell, even Sarek. See Amok Time and Journey to Babel.
Spock was racist towards humans too, i know. But he gets shit for this constantly in the fandom, they don't need ME to do it for them

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I think i saw an episode of TOS on one of the Fan Boxes a few years ago. I don't like TOS so i don't waste my time on it. Unless reviews count.
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Spock was racist towards humans too, i know. But he gets shit for this constantly in the fandom, they don't need ME to do it for them


I think i saw an episode of TOS on one of the Fan Boxes a few years ago. I don't like TOS so i don't waste my time on it. Unless reviews count.
I am a big fan of TOS, because for it's time, it was an excellent show, and also because it was first.


So that's why you thought that Kirk was racist. McCoy did have frequent arguments with Spock, but most of the times, it was Spock who used to start it by mocking his emotions. Kirk always tried to stop them from arguing, but most of the time they wouldn't listen. At the same time, all the three were the best of friends, and their arguments were rarely serious and more like friendly banter.

Seriously, you need to try watching it again. Maybe then you would know why Kirk is so popular. See City on the Edge of Forever and Naked Time, and I'll be surprised if you don't like it.
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