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Old 09-20-2017, 10:25 PM
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Back from lurking mode just to say this one thing: Sillithus was one of my favorite zones because of the lore of battles past. I liked it barren. I liked farming beetles for the Scepter quest. Now it's gone. This feels like Cataclysm 2.0 and not in a good way.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:45 PM
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It's weird that they obliterated Silithus just after making a mini-holiday there.
But, then again, if there was one zone that was useless and no one would miss, it was Silithus...
Desolace, Feralas, Vashj'ir...
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:50 PM
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I'm sure you'll be able to revert it like Theramore and Blasted Lands.
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Desolace, Feralas, Vashj'ir...
Those have Cataclysm era questlines. Silithus has like 30 quests total, all from vanilla.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:13 PM
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I doubt that we'll get a second Cataclysm-like expansion. What you have to remember is that the zones were revamped for the sake of gameplay, not to move the lore forward or make it more consistent. If we ever get another expansion that revamps zones it would have to be set in WoW's current problem zone: Outland (followed by Northrend), and after WoD (and Cata) I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Regarding the wound, its colouration fits a world's wound, but does it really fit a titan, whose lifeblood is arcane magic? I would have expected a more magical wound, with swirling colours and lots of purple.

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Old 09-20-2017, 11:31 PM
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Desolace, Feralas, Vashj'ir...
Nah. Those zones are great. Those have lots of quests and are fun, especially beautiful Vashj'ir. Silithus, on the other hand, has only about 19 or 20 quests in total, a few Twilight's Hammer camps, and useless Silithyst crap from Vanilla. It is, currently, a useless zone.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:09 AM
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Regarding the wound, its colouration fits a world's wound, but does it really fit a titan, whose lifeblood is arcane magic? I would have expected a more magical wound, with swirling colours and lots of purple.
That particular map looks like it's just topographical terrain mapping with basic textures, so animated stuff like fluids, ground clutter and light/spell effects overlaying it in-game aren't visible in that format; hence the ocean appearing as dirt-colored instead of water-like. Even the yellow cracks are probably just the most basic of lava textures for the ground that will be underneath actual molten rock and/or titan blood as fluids when in-game.

The actual wound itself has a pretty deliberate-looking "empty" texture in its center, like it's a design marker telling the devs "this doesn't need its own texture because it's where we code in a bunch of models and fancy effects and other stuff that obscure the bottom from view."
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:06 AM
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That particular map looks like it's just topographical terrain mapping with basic textures, so animated stuff like fluids, ground clutter and light/spell effects overlaying it in-game aren't visible in that format; hence the ocean appearing as dirt-colored instead of water-like. Even the yellow cracks are probably just the most basic of lava textures for the ground that will be underneath actual molten rock and/or titan blood as fluids when in-game.

The actual wound itself has a pretty deliberate-looking "empty" texture in its center, like it's a design marker telling the devs "this doesn't need its own texture because it's where we code in a bunch of models and fancy effects and other stuff that obscure the bottom from view."
Apparently I was super confused about what caused the wound, sorry

Disregard that post. Shouldn't do the thinking stuff while just half awake.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:06 AM
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Sargeras caused it apparently. Azeroth's blood is leaking out, so essentially it's a new Well of Eternity.
Haha, no. Your expectations of WoW are too damn high.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:08 AM
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At this point, how is she still alive?
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:13 AM
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Haha, no. Your expectations of WoW are too damn high.
You know, what a new magic well means right?

Sand Elves confirmed.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:16 AM
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We’ve updated the 7.3 PTR with a new patch, labeled as 7.3.2. This patch is very minor, focused around updating a few of our backend systems as well as making some final adjustments in preparation for the release of the Antorus raid zone. There’s no new content or features in this update, and any other changes will be extremely light (in most cases limited to simply correcting tooltips to reflect hotfixes that are already live).

As such, we’re not planning to post regular development notes with future builds, but will post updates regarding raid testing as that process continues. Thanks, and happy testing!


It looks like either Antorus will be out before 7.3.5 or there won't be a 7.3.5 at all. Them pushing out Antorus fast would make sense, given that it would be weird to announce the next expansion now that we know its kicked off via an event in the Antorus raid that will leave people really confused if it isn't already common knowledge by Blizzcon.


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Considering how the Core of Argus looks like (As seen in the skybox and on the planet itself) and the fact that the wound was created by a drop of Sargeras' blood, maybe that's just remnants ôf the drop.

Also, I would love to actually see that massive blood drop fall while standing in Gadgetzan, Thunder Bluff or Feathermoon
The wound wasn't created by Sargeras' blood, if you're referring to the Khadgar quote. Khadgar is talking about a drop of Argus the Unmaker's blood, which you give to him in exchange for an Arcane Raven mount. Hence why he tells you to go see the destruction in Silithus rather than be there talking about it.

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Old 09-21-2017, 01:30 AM
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The wound wasn't created by Sargeras' blood, if you're referring to the Khadgar quote. Khadgar is talking about a drop of Argus the Unmaker's blood, which you give to him in exchange for an Arcane Raven mount. Hence why he tells you to go see the destruction in Silithus rather than be there talking about it.
Yes, thank you. I already edited my post. I must have been getting confused with all the talk about titan blood etc.
Sorry.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:31 AM
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You know, what a new magic well means right?

Sand Elves confirmed.
*starts shoveling Farraki, tortollans, and Un'Goro gorillas into the blood lake*
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:27 AM
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*starts shoveling Farraki, tortollans, and Un'Goro gorillas into the blood lake*
I wonder what would happen if the Belves filled their Blood Golems with Azeroth Blood. It COULD act as a portable Mini-Sunwell.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:46 AM
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@Silithus:

Yeah, they definetly will put Zidormi in that zone.

They always done that before, if some storyphasing would interfere with old questing. (Theramore, Blasted Lands, Peak of Serenity,...)
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Old 09-21-2017, 04:12 AM
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It looks like either Antorus will be out before 7.3.5 or there won't be a 7.3.5 at all. Them pushing out Antorus fast would make sense, given that it would be weird to announce the next expansion now that we know its kicked off via an event in the Antorus raid that will leave people really confused if it isn't already common knowledge by Blizzcon.
I'd have to disagree with this sentiment, pushing out Antorus too soon is just bad for raiding. Not only would it make Tomb of Sargeras be too short, but also that Antorus will likely last even longer in a content drought.

They also don't need to explain how the wound was created or even talk about it its correlation to the next expansion at all depending on its importance. It is possible they can just skip that part and talk about the expansion itself. Somewhat similar to how they announced Argus at last Blizzcon yet never explained what event would lead us there.

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Old 09-21-2017, 06:01 AM
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Silithus is a really old zone. They could add an npc to phase it back, but do they need to?
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:23 AM
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This whole thing was quite unexpected and i havent been this "shocked" (in regards to wow) since cataclysm.

Please let next expansion feature some new villain or cultists anything but nagas and faceless

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...Your-Last-Clue this leak iss probs the most credible at this time.

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Old 09-21-2017, 06:35 AM
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So what's up with Silithus - does Sargeras stab Azeroth during the final fight against him? Is 'The Wound' meant to be relevant for the next expansion?
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:46 AM
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A weakened world soul, just ripe for the picking by the Void Gods and the Old Gods.
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:55 AM
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So what's up with Silithus - does Sargeras stab Azeroth during the final fight against him? Is 'The Wound' meant to be relevant for the next expansion?
That's what we've been saying yes.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:43 AM
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So what's up with Silithus - does Sargeras stab Azeroth during the final fight against him? Is 'The Wound' meant to be relevant for the next expansion?
Khadgar's datamined audio almost certainly confirms The Wound will play a major role. It's apparently deep enough to be potentially fatal to Azeroth's world soul, while Khadgar says the power of the Titan blood seeping out will cause "those who seek to rule this world will stop at nothing to possess it," and that we need to find a way to heal The Wound to save Azeroth.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:45 AM
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:39 AM
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I'd have to disagree with this sentiment, pushing out Antorus too soon is just bad for raiding. Not only would it make Tomb of Sargeras be too short, but also that Antorus will likely last even longer in a content drought.
Antorus coming out in November 14th makes Tomb of Sargeras have the same duration of every raid tier in Legion.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:01 AM
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So what's up with Silithus - does Sargeras stab Azeroth during the final fight against him? Is 'The Wound' meant to be relevant for the next expansion?
Based on Khadgar's dialogue it sounds like Sargeras manages to strike Azeroth before he gets imprisoned by the Pantheon. Not enough to destroy it, but enough to make her start bleeding out (like how she bled out when Aman'thul removed Y'shaarj, creating the Well of Eternity).
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