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Old 07-08-2017, 12:16 PM
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Sam Raimi trilogy would like to have a word with you.

...except for the third film. We don't talk about that one.
Yeah, as dark as Raimi's films were I thought the part where Peter jerked off to the tapes of the concentration camp his great-great grandfather made was a bit far.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:22 PM
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Carnage is going to be the bad guy in Venom.

Pretty much means its going to suck.
On the otherhand, I love Terminator 2. And that movie is the best example of, "Hey, lets take the cool muscular bad guy and make him a good guy, because he has to fight an EVEN BADDER guy who's tougher because he's thin and stretchy in a dangerous way!"
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Old 07-08-2017, 02:04 PM
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Carnage is a great villain to have in a Venom movie.

I don't think that's why it would suck. It will likely suck because it's more of a Sony movie than an MCU movie, and it's Sony's attempt at trying to build its own universe in-case they want to take Spider-Man away from the MCU.
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Old 07-08-2017, 02:46 PM
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Carnage is a great villain to have in a Venom movie.

I don't think that's why it would suck. It will likely suck because it's more of a Sony movie than an MCU movie, and it's Sony's attempt at trying to build its own universe in-case they want to take Spider-Man away from the MCU.
Carnage is bad first movie. Carnage is hard to pull off.

They are going to try and go Joker type character with Carnage and its going to backfire
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:03 PM
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That after credits scene in Spiderman.
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:54 PM
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So the MCU cant use spiderman? But it can use Rhino and doc ock and so?
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:33 PM
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Carnage is bad first movie. Carnage is hard to pull off.

They are going to try and go Joker type character with Carnage and its going to backfire
You might be right. I read/played Maximum Carnage back in the day, and he was pretty much Heath Ledger Joker already. Embrace chaos, entropy will free you, that kind of schtick.

And really, it's a natural foil to Venom's self-righteous vigilantism, because Venom really IS the hypocrite between the two of them.

Not sure they can do it without Spidey as the straight man.
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:29 PM
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Carnage is bad first movie. Carnage is hard to pull off.

They are going to try and go Joker type character with Carnage and its going to backfire
Fair point I suppose, though I still don't mind as long as it's true to the comic character. When Lex Luthor was made into a wannabe Joker it was legitimately cringe-worthy and didn't fit the character, but if that's what actually fits Carnage then I think it's a little more palpable even if cliche.

Spider-Man: Homecoming was good but I still think Spider-Man 2 is the best one, but it's at least equally as good as Spider-Man 1 and far surpasses those terrible Amazing Spider-Man movies. Hard to figure out what I didn't like but I guess this weird thing where Zendaya is Mary Jane but not really since she doesn't have the exact same name, just the same initials... so I'm not sure if she's supposed to be an entirely new character or actually Mary Jane but ah well who cares.

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That after credits scene in Spiderman.
Yep, something very important is revealed after the rolling credits are over. Really took me by surprise.
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Old 07-10-2017, 12:26 AM
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Fair point I suppose, though I still don't mind as long as it's true to the comic character. When Lex Luthor was made into a wannabe Joker it was legitimately cringe-worthy and didn't fit the character, but if that's what actually fits Carnage then I think it's a little more palpable even if cliche.

Spider-Man: Homecoming was good but I still think Spider-Man 2 is the best one, but it's at least equally as good as Spider-Man 1 and far surpasses those terrible Amazing Spider-Man movies. Hard to figure out what I didn't like but I guess this weird thing where Zendaya is Mary Jane but not really since she doesn't have the exact same name, just the same initials... so I'm not sure if she's supposed to be an entirely new character or actually Mary Jane but ah well who cares.


Yep, something very important is revealed after the rolling credits are over. Really took me by surprise.
They wimped out on making her MJ because of the potential race-change backlash. Especially because liz allen is a pre-existing poc love interest, and changing another white redheaded character is a trend.
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Old 07-10-2017, 12:19 PM
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They wimped out on making her MJ because of the potential race-change backlash. Especially because liz allen is a pre-existing poc love interest, and changing another white redheaded character is a trend.
I suppose it's a good thing she wasn't changed to a Native American. It would've been really awkward when Peter called her "Red".
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Old 07-14-2017, 03:00 AM
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She's not going to end up being Mary Jane, producers confirmed.

I would not be surprised if Sony tries the whole "Spiderverse" concept and try to build up alternate universe Spider-Mans as solo projects. They have a lot they can work with.

Also, my gut feeling tells me we will have a Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur movie for next MCU phase. It's as much a wild card at this point as Gotg was, but the comics are really popular with young readers. Also, Ms. Marvel film is inevitable, but I think it would be too confusing to have both a "Captain Marvel" and "Ms Marvel" film. A few years down the line, for sure. Alternatively they could introduce her and other new heroes in a "Champions" movie. Solo films for Vision and Black Widow could happen too. Any future solo plans for Iron Man would probably just be a backdoor introduction for Ironheart, and same with Hawkeye/Kate Bishop.

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Old 07-14-2017, 08:00 AM
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She's not going to end up being Mary Jane, producers confirmed.
They SAID that, but wasn't there a tiger picture in the background of the scene? She won't change her name to "Mary Jane", but look out for love interest.

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They could go the Ant-Man route. Have Kamala as the main character, with Danvers as the established figure who teaches her and passes down the mantle. Then they can team up or whatever in the end.
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:42 AM
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They SAID that, but wasn't there a tiger picture in the background of the scene? She won't change her name to "Mary Jane", but look out for love interest.



They could go the Ant-Man route. Have Kamala as the main character, with Danvers as the established figure who teaches her and passes down the mantle. Then they can team up or whatever in the end.
They said it was just a homage to the character and her character isn't comparable to Mary Jane so I don't think it was ever intended to be but they will def go the love interest route. I bet he has a new love interest in the sequel (Betty Brant? Cindy Moon?) but continues to tease the two characters getting together until the end of the sequel or in the third film.

She actually kind of reminded me of Jessica Jones, who in the comics went to HS with Peter and had a big crush on him (but they never dated).
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:45 AM
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They could go the Ant-Man route. Have Kamala as the main character, with Danvers as the established figure who teaches her and passes down the mantle. Then they can team up or whatever in the end.
Captain Marvel needs to start out with her as an Airmen so we can see if Disney can get it right.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:01 PM
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The new Spider Man was great, I really praise RDJ, Tomei and Keaton's performance, other than Peter's crush is not pretty.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:49 AM
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Captain Marvel needs to start out with her as an Airmen so we can see if Disney can get it right.
The Kamala version of Ms. Marvel is getting pushed to the public eye and merchandised like nobody's business. (Same with Spider-Gwen.)

Good luck getting a Ms. Marvel film in which Kamala isn't the main character. But don't worry, Danvers will probably be around too in some fashion.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:57 AM
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They already announced Captain marvel and this actress as Carol Danvers.



http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4154664/
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:10 PM
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They already announced Captain marvel and this actress as Carol Danvers.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4154664/
Well. You win this round, actuality!
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:28 PM
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Well. You win this round, actuality!
They should just set the entire movie in the Air Force because it would be a realistic super hero movie!
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:08 PM
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I really love the portrayal of Marisa Tomei's Aunt May. She is a very strong woman and help Peter Parker a lot with his teenage life rather than being some very fragile old lady. Her age also fits a high school kid's aunt.
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:22 PM
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Is Doctor Strange going to be in this as well?
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:45 PM
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Where is Padme? Is she safe? Is she alright?
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:51 PM
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Hulk has been Hulk for 2 years straight on sakaar that is why he can talk like a 2 year old.

Also BTFO JUSTice league.
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:05 PM
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Where is Padme? Is she safe? Is she alright?
Fell into lava.
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:07 PM
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Fell into lava.
So she had suffered the same fate as her husband?
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