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Old 05-16-2018, 08:20 AM
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Didn't find a topic for this.

Since the Amazon Spoilers pretty much revealed much of the story and people using the world search function in it to "datamine" stuff, that wasn't official displayed, I think a spoiler/duiscussion topic might be necessary.

One major thing that got datamined:

Yes, Calia is killed by Sylvanas, but later gets resurrected at netherlight Temple as a Undead(ish).

It it is also revealed, Pre-Third War she fell in love with a Non-Nobleman, got secretly married and had a daughter.

Because Arthas was first in line, everybody believed Jaina and him would make an "offical heir" her hubby and child were hidden outside Lordereon in Southshore.

During the Third War, Calia managed to escape the Scourge Attack and got reunited with her Family in Southsshore, were they lived happily for many years, her real identity not known.

Then the Forsaken attacked Southshore with the Blight during Cata and they got seperated. (Calia was apparently rescued by some guy on a horse.)
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:30 AM
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:09 AM
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http://www.wowhead.com/news=284452/b...eview-spoilers

The Full Spoiler.

Yeah, lots of Calia Build Up.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:13 AM
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I echo what I said earlier; the concept of light-raised Forsaken is probably the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read, and I've read some quality shitposts over my years
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:42 AM
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I echo what I said earlier; the concept of light-raised Forsaken is probably the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read, and I've read some quality shitposts over my years
This may be surprising to you, but I actually like the potential behind this development. People are suspecting it's a way of replacing the Forsaken, but right now I'm leaning more strongly on the idea that this is a way of giving the Alliance an allied race of "good" Undead that follow far more closely to their Lordaeron heritage rather than casting it aside and becoming a perversion of their former selves.

It fits really well with how they've been adding Second War allies to the Alliance in an altered form. Gilneas came back as cursed Worgen, High Elves came back as Void-infused elves, Kul Tirans are coming back as half-Drust, and now this could potentially mean that the people of Lordaeron come back as devout Undead champions that are like Leonid Bartholomew in ideology.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:31 PM
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These reveals please me.

>Sylvanas is entirely at fault for lying to the Horde and her own people, commits war crimes to cover it up.
>Calia lives as an Undead, and now is a witness to Sylvanas' evil and powerlust.
>Kalec x Jaina ship is sunk.
>That feel when the Horde and Forsaken (who are shown loving Calia and wanting to follow her) find out about what Sylvanas did, combined with Saurfang and others.
>Eitrigg says in the Mag'har scenario that they would be fighting "tyrants". Sylvanas is explicitly a tyrant who demands barbaric "loyalty" from everyone at the point of a sword.

It feels as if everything just fell into place with these spoilers. I am excited!
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:14 PM
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Calia's lines make it seem like she's being compelled by the Light, and now she's been made their messiah to the Forsaken. This is the way of the new Light. Conversion. Just as they converted Grom's son in the other timeline.

Hallowed are the Naaru. Because people are mistaken when they think Blizzard is just ripping off Babylon 5. They've also watched Stargate.

Calia is their Prior.
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Old 05-16-2018, 02:25 PM
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Made a thread/poll to discuss the merits of Holy Undead as opposed to San’layn or whatever other variants people can think up as a Allied Race.

http://forums.scrollsoflore.com/showthread.php?t=221428

EDIT: another possibility: Calia as Arthas’ only (Un)living kin, is the true heir........ to the Frozen Throne. All hail the Holy Lich Queen.

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Old 05-16-2018, 03:02 PM
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Calia's lines make it seem like she's being compelled by the Light, and now she's been made their messiah to the Forsaken. This is the way of the new Light. Conversion. Just as they converted Grom's son in the other timeline.

Hallowed are the Naaru. Because people are mistaken when they think Blizzard is just ripping off Babylon 5. They've also watched Stargate.

Calia is their Prior.
What?

What in Calia's lines suggest "compulsion" in any shape or form?
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