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Old 12-05-2015, 04:30 AM
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If the Alliance had conquered the Horde and been done with it, none of this would have happened. If you give the Horde an inch, they'll rape and murder your family while forcing you to watch.
This is so out of left wing I can't help but just laugh.
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:33 AM
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People should just accept that as long as World of Warcraft is still running that there will always be a Horde and an Alliance.


BTW, I have the OST of WoW on my background, Gods, its glorious. The music never disappoints (except for BC. BC music mostly sucks).
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:43 AM
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This is so out of left wing I can't help but just laugh.
That's probably the intention, I know it made me literally laugh.
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:50 AM
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If the Alliance had conquered the Horde and been done with it, none of this would have happened. If you give the Horde an inch, they'll rape and murder your family while forcing you to watch.
I don't see anything wrong with this.
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Old 12-05-2015, 05:04 AM
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If the Alliance had conquered the Horde and been done with it, none of this would have happened. If you give the Horde an inch, they'll rape and murder your family while forcing you to watch.
It's all Varian's fault. He saved Garrosh.
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Old 12-05-2015, 05:11 AM
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Right now I'm just wondering what the the "Ancient Kings" were and what that even means, since Paladins apparently have a "Book of Ancient Kings" that you have to write your name inside of. Who the fuck are the "Ancient Kings"?

I mean, is this a literal reference to the Thoradin and those who ruled around his time? And what do they have to do with the Light? Is this a reference to something Titanic in origin, now that they seem to have a stronger connection to the Light?

For that matter, if Thoradin's sword is in Tyr's Tomb, did he find or have access to other Titan technology or tools? Are the Guardians of Ancient Kings just his chosen heroes enhanced in a manner similar to the Val'kyr?

Probably not. Who knows what Ancient Kings are?
Isn't there also a Hall of Ancient Kings? I suspect that's likely vrykul in origin. Sounds like human paladins of the Silver Hand trace their traditions back to the vrykul kings themselves, perhaps those in service of the titans and Tyr.
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Old 12-05-2015, 05:15 AM
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SI:7, Ravenholdt, the Shattered Hand clan, and the Bloodsail Buccaneers (possibly even the Royal Apothecary Society) all serve/are fronts for the Uncrowned. I guess this is what they mean by how they secretly rule all governments.
This Lore is absolute cancer.

It's horrendous, make it stop.

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It's almost like class halls were a dumb idea and that maybe trying to fit all the class groups, subgroups, nongroups, themes and so on into one box was another case of Blizz consolidating things where it didn't need to be consolidated except to make it easier for them to railroad and define your experience instead of letting you decide what's fun or what makes your class your class.

These are the new class flairs. You either accept it and enjoy it or complain uselessly into the void because Blizz has already decided on the appropriate fun for you anyway.
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Also, Daily Reminder Racial Halls would of fitted everyone/everything far, far better than Class Halls.
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Old 12-05-2015, 05:36 AM
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This Lore is absolute cancer.

It's horrendous, make it stop.
It could've been much better if they made the Underbelly just a seedy place full of liaisons for all sorts of "underground" groups (secret services, assassins, organized crime, initiatic societies, etc.) which are naturally inclined to maintain connections with everyone, having their interests everywhere. It's perfectly reasonable on it's own, and a good enough background for a Rogue class hall. There was absolutely no need to make up some overarching organization for that sake.
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Old 12-05-2015, 05:43 AM
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Greywatch Worgen should wear this instead of Stormwind's colors.

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Old 12-05-2015, 06:00 AM
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With a lot of help from some Drogbar, apparently. And the Hammer of Khaz'goroth.

Probably not banishing to Deepholm since that is where he went after DotD. I'd guess he was banished from the mountains and that is why he never went back to his lair after the WotA.
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:03 AM
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Probably not banishing to Deepholm since that is where he went after DotD. I'd guess he was banished from the mountains and that is why he never went back to his lair after the WotA.
I assumed Deepholm because when he was banished he was encased in stone. Not entirely sure where he went, it doesn't really specify.

I wouldn't be shocked if they'd retcon how Deathwing got to Deepholm, at any rate.
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:05 AM
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This is so out of left wing I can't help but just laugh.
he's not wrong
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:20 AM
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They're probably forsaken sailors, but there are a lot of Alliance in the area too.

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Old 12-05-2015, 06:21 AM
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I thought Blightcaller died. Is that after this?
Could be. We know the Skyfire is going down after the scenario in which you fight Genn on Horde side and Nathanos on Alliance side. All the Skyfire corpses indicate that that might have happened already.

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Last thing before I go to bed, here's Genn's yelling:

http://i.imgur.com/mvquh2V.jpg
I really like this aggressive Genn.

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This forum needs more spikes.
Garrosh would have wanted this o7
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Garrosh is best Warchief.

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Some more screenshots:

RAS NPCs in the rogue class hall:
http://imgur.com/RpdFMMp
http://imgur.com/ShIyRJ4

Some SI:7 NPCs too:
http://imgur.com/Xt54L5o

The Maw of Nashal:
http://imgur.com/WFRwsxt
http://imgur.com/Z41awuF
http://imgur.com/wq8Gv4C
Interesting to see that there's a Grand Apothecary in the rogue hall. That's only the third one with that rank we've seen so far I think.

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No doubt they're the MU Shattered Hand seen in vanilla in the Cleft of Shadow as rogue trainers. Y'know, the ones who seemed to be pulling political strings, and were also rogues. It would make sense for them to be in this organization.
Yeah these are my thoughts on this as well. It's probably MU SH.
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:23 AM
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It would just be nice to know how they went from gladiator brutes to intelligence-gathering rogues.
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:43 AM
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It would just be nice to know how they went from gladiator brutes to intelligence-gathering rogues.
Well, they ARE cutting Gladiator Stance...
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:49 AM
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It would just be nice to know how they went from gladiator brutes to intelligence-gathering rogues.
I'm trying to figure out if they're MU or AU Shattered Hand Orcs. If the former then it looks like Blizzard gave them a real makeover and decided to bring them back to being a mainly Orcish clan rather than a multiracial Rogue organization.

Also if this means Shattered Hand Orcs will be a subrace then I would be all for that since I like their aesthetic.
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:51 AM
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so the alliance literally gains fucking nothing since blightcaller isn't even killed with the loss of the skyfire

no bias though
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:54 AM
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It would just be nice to know how they went from gladiator brutes to intelligence-gathering rogues.
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On a more serious note, with what we've seen in Draenor the SH always had quite a lot assassins, spies and the like in their ranks. It seems that they just capitalized on that in the new Horde.

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Well, they ARE cutting Gladiator Stance...
Too soon man. Too soon.

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I'm trying to figure out if they're MU or AU Shattered Hand Orcs. If the former then it looks like Blizzard gave them a real makeover and decided to bring them back to being a mainly Orcish clan rather than a multiracial Rogue organization.

Also if this means Shattered Hand Orcs will be a subrace then I would be all for that since I like their aesthetic.
Orc clan relevance hype.
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Old 12-05-2015, 06:58 AM
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Aww. I was hoping for more wrathion stuff .

At least they arent cutting things mid development yet.

also : glasses for tmog

Just need sunglasses now and i can mog a Secret agent.


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Old 12-05-2015, 07:04 AM
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They're really driving home the Ozzy references with Darius Crowley.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:13 AM
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On a more serious note, with what we've seen in Draenor the SH always had quite a lot assassins, spies and the like in their ranks. It seems that they just capitalized on that in the new Horde.

Orc clan relevance hype.
Idk, I feel like MU SH was always a little bit spy-ish and more rogue than AU. The old Shattered Hand and AU SH were composed of gladiators who cut their hands, but the actual clan that still lives isn't so much of a bloodthirsty, savage gladiator clan as the AU.

I honestly think that's MU SH in the Uncrowned tho, I don't really see reason for the AU SH to join us in a world they don't even know. Curious if the Horde is getting anything from the AU actually.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:14 AM
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Or a few hundred.

It seems REALLY odd that all other dragonflights were completely unaware of this clutch, and how they've gone unhatched all these years. It sort of minimizes Wrathion's importance, as well, as the supposed 'last uncorrupted Black Dragon'. It's not as if he's actually directly related to Deathwing, so what's his claim to importance now?
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:16 AM
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They're really driving home the Ozzy references with Darius Crowley.
Reminds me, whatever happened to him? Haven't seen him in Legion so far.

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Idk, I feel like MU SH was always a little bit spy-ish and more rogue than AU. The old Shattered Hand and AU SH were composed of gladiators who cut their hands, but the actual clan that still lives isn't so much of a bloodthirsty, savage gladiator clan as the AU.

I honestly think that's MU SH in the Uncrowned tho, I don't really see reason for the AU SH to join us in a world they don't even know. Curious if the Horde is getting anything from the AU actually.
I don't want AU people to come over here. They're gonna take our jobs!

The only thing I want the Horde to take from the AU is the clan identity.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:18 AM
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Reminds me, whatever happened to him? Haven't seen him in Legion so far.



I don't want AU people to come over here. They're gonna take our jobs!

The only thing I want the Horde to take from the AU is the clan identity.
He'll likely show up, I see him on wowhead as part of the Gilneas Brigade which was conceived by him in the first place.

If Blizzard has any sense they'll redeem him after the ruination he suffered under the pen of Anne Stickney.
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