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Old 12-14-2012, 08:57 AM
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Default About the Light, the Shadow and the Void.

I'm opening this post because since Ask CDev #3 was realeased, I had a doubt related with the terms by wich we refer to the divine magic wielded by Shadow Priests.

The new canon lore of the Cult of the Forgotten Shadow was revealed in the WoW The Magazine Issue 4, as many might remember:

The Teachings of Bishop Natalie Seline

After the First War, a bishop from Lordaeron began to delve into workings of the orc necrolytes who had poured through the Dark Portal and desecrated their hallowed dead. While at first this was done in order to provide Azeroth with the knowledge it needed to fight against such dark magic, the bishop's studies over the years became increasingly obsessed with finding out why such dark energies existed at all, and why she began to see the ebb and flow of such energies in the world around her. She began preaching about the necessity of balance between dark and light, but after her death, her books were locked away in the Kirin Tor's vaults in Dalaran.

What's the Deal with Shadow Priests?

While many priests draw on powers such as the Holy Light or the goddess Elune, shadow priests turn to dark energies to accomplish their goals.

The Cult of the Forgotten Shadow, a group considered heretical by most, believes that dark energy practitioners are just as vital to the survival of life and reality (which they call "the Shadow") as wielders of the Light. The cult preaches balance, mandating that shadow priests must never forget the dangers of falling too deep into the dark energies they manipulate, for it is often too hard to find one's way back to the Shadow from the deep reaches of the darkness.

The cult was created through the (re)discovery of the teachings of Bishop Natalie Seline by Forsaken priests in Lordaeron after the capture and refurbishing of the Undercity. Shadow priests generally do not practice openly, and not all members are Forsaken, although they formed the cult. Within the last few years, the number of non-Forsaken (and non-Horde) members within the cult has grown sharply.


From this we are told that the Cult believes that reality itself is called "the Shadow". Also, they preach balance between Light and Darkness, and they warn that if you dwell too deep in one the extremes, it would be hard to return to reality (the Shadow).

The text also mentions that Shadow Priest (¿Priests of Reality?) use "dark energy". Oddly, there's no mention of a "Shadow energy" like we see ingame, used by the "Shadow" specialization of the Priest Class. Just "dark energy", opposite to the Light wielded by the Church and different to the powers granted by Elune.

When "WoW The Magazine Issue 5" was printed and we got the wonderful comic "The Warcraft Saga", drawn by Alex Horsley, scripted by James Waugh and created by Chris Metzen:

It is said that in the beginning there was Light and there was Void and in a time long ago, the two collided in the abyss of the Great Dark.

Infinite worlds spiraled out into the newly forming cosmos...


This explains that the opposing energies formerly set (Light and Darkness) which are sources of divine magic, created the universe ("the Shadow") by colliding in the Warcraft version of the Big Bang.

Both the comic and the info in Issue 4 (with all the deal of "balance") is in line with something formerly stated by D'ore in Auchondiun, who said "without the void, the Light cannot exist."

What we can conclude for this two sources? That there are two magics/energies, the Light and the Void (Darkness), and that the physical reality which they created by collyding is referred by the Cult as "the Shadow". So, apparently, there's no Shadow energy at all. Just Void and Light. The sides of a coin.

But then... problem came with Ask CDev #3:

Q: Is there a reason that many priest spells, especially shadow priest spells, have names that refer to psychic phenomena like "Mind Spike" or "Psychic Horror"? Are priests implicitly telepaths?

A: The Light is often said to bring about feelings of positive emotion-- hope, courage, comfort-- and the like. Shadow abilities are just the opposite, able to impart feelings like despair, doubt, and panic. In a poetic sense, it can be said that the emotions which the Light brings about come from the "heart," whereas the emotions manipulated by shadow are often based on survival logic, and therefore affect the "mind." That said, priests and their abilities are not necessarily always psychic or telepathic in nature.


Suddenly, we have an answer that implicity states the existence of "Shadow abilities" and "emotions manipulated by shadow". Yet, all the previous "new" lore of the Magazines never refer to it, allways mentioning "dark magic/energy" and saying that a religion use the expression "the Shadow" to refer to "reality", not a magical energy.

I interpreted the last Ask CDev just as a typo or a mistake of mixing terms, that the writer (Omacron, wasn't it?) actually wanted to say "Dark/Void abilities" and "emotions manipulated by darkness". That could happen to anyone.

The thing is that the lore implies that there aren't "Shadow abilities", but dark abilities under the teachings of the "Cult of the Forgotten Shadow", just like the abilities in the "Holy specialization" doesn't use "Holy magic" but "Light magic" under the teachings of the "Church of the Holy Light". Am I right in my thoughts? Opinions?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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Dunno, seems like a lot of talk about semantics there.

I guess the combination of Light and Void, which is what all matter is made of from what we can tell, is called Shadow but the Void (or Darkness) is also called Shadow sometimes, that is all really.

Perhaps it would be best if they called the Shadow, as in the one that makes up everything, Twilight. That makes sense since the lock ability Twilight Shield absorbs both kinds of energy, probably by tying them up together with an equal but opposite amount of their anti-energy.
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"Manipulated by shadow" might have been phrased better as "manipulated by priests using the shadow spec".
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"Manipulated by shadow" might have been phrased better as "manipulated by priests using the shadow spec".
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