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Old 08-14-2009, 08:01 AM
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Default The Highbornes Return?!



Each passing day, Maelstrom/Emerald Dream expansion seems more and more possible.

Taurens had something last patch talking about druids/sun druids.

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Old 08-14-2009, 08:05 AM
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Seems they are going to add existant classes to current races, judging by this quest I think.

Night Elf Mages and Tauren Paladins?
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:08 AM
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Seems they are going to add existant classes to current races, judging by this quest I think.

Night Elf Mages and Tauren Paladins?
Heh, that would be interesting. And odd. O_o
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:14 AM
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Heh, that would be interesting. And odd. O_o
If they are going to add more Shamans/Paladins to Alliance/Horde, Taurens seems to be the most likely choice for Holy Warriors at least, if Worgen get Shamans.

Though, what the Alliance needs is more Warlocks
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:21 AM
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Though, what the Alliance needs is more Warlocks
Is it possible that Highborne could give Night Elves Mages and Warlocks? They weren't exactly averse to tinkering in the demonic arts, as their various catastrophes have made known... but I get the impression the very idea of suggesting Night Elf Warlocks is going to cause a loreavalanche of hatred in my general direction. -_-
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:25 AM
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Is it possible that Highborne could give Night Elves Mages and Warlocks? They weren't exactly averse to tinkering in the demonic arts, as their various catastrophes have made known... but I get the impression the very idea of suggesting Night Elf Warlocks is going to cause a loreavalanche of hatred in my general direction. -_-
Same could be said for Orc Warlocks. : / I still don't agree with them being a playable class after the shitstorm it caused.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:37 AM
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Worgen join the Alliance. Worgen get Shamans. Lore is contrived as to why they get shamans, even if they are cursed Gilneans all they have to say is 'the curse made the ones who retained their minds hear the calls of the elements'. If they are aliens from another dimension, they're a blank canvas.

This demands balance, a new Horde Paladin race. Goblins are too well known by the players to receive Paladins. Whilst I'm sure it could be written, ANYTHING can be written, I can easily imagine the devs laughing off such a suggestion.

So the Tauren get Paladins, and the nature of the Light is explored a little more in the current exploration of lore.

But that leads to yet another imbalance, as the Allies had one race with four base classes, and the Horde had another race with four base classes, and now that Horde race has five base classes.

So Gnomes have to get something. Blizzard starts thinking about it, though some possibilites are beyond the pale (as Zahrym said recently). Paladins are out. Hunters are out. Shamans are out. Druids are out. Priests are out.

Perhaps a tinkerer hero class limited to Goblins and Gnomes? Or they'll stretch the lore like mad to give Gnomes Hunters.

See this lore issue with the Tauren in Thunderbluff wondering about Druidism can drive you crazy. You just know they're teasing us about something HUGE, something very, very big gamewise. The Tauren Paladin scenario above isn't implausible...but Haak's Stormrage book is coming and that screams Emerald Dream in some capcity to me and it's much more likely that whatever those Tauren are discussing is going to lead into that.

Besides Blizzard deliberately leaked the new races for a reason, to hype up excitement. But what if they were also trying to make us focus SO MUCH on the new races that we'd not see the bigger announcement coming, a potential new class.

WoTLK gave us the Death Knight, and in a cheeky way TBC also offered new classes by removing the faction restrictions on Shamans and Paladins. If you all cast your mind back to the launch of TBC what two classes were the new Draenei and Blood Elves playing by far the most? Shamans and Paladins.

In just over a week, all will be laid bare. Either that or the feature list will leak again in a few days just like it did before Blizzcon 2007.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:50 AM
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Night Elf Mages and Tauren Paladins?
that would be awesome
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:55 AM
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This demands balance, a new Horde Paladin race. Goblins are too well known by the players to receive Paladins. Whilst I'm sure it could be written, ANYTHING can be written, I can easily imagine the devs laughing off such a suggestion.

So the Tauren get Paladins,
Random idea: Would that mean Tauren get the Blood Elf Paladin mount? I don't know, it doesn't seem to me like it'd fit with Tauren, but that's a totally subjective opinion. Changing a class mount based on race would be admittedly unprecedented, as BE was a faction change, not a racial one, but still...

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Old 08-14-2009, 08:56 AM
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Night Elves Mage... That would make sense if an Highborn is negociating with Tyrande.


" Azshara's awaken in the Maelstrom she'll do nasty things, we have knowledge and power to help you defeat her twisted being, ( and take back what's left of the Well at the same time ) However you'll accept our kinds once again into your ranks and allow us to use arcane magic again to help you kill her and avenge what's happen before"

Take into account that the cards have been changed and are in favour of Tyrande, and that the Highbornes mage will have to answer of their use of magic to the new council of tirisfal and the Kirin Tor if their faction merge with the night elves again. They are not the dominant species anymore and several faction and lots of people will keep them in check if they ever mess with magic again

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Old 08-14-2009, 09:29 AM
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Night Elf Mage and Tauren Priest perhaps?
I agree that these two quests have something to do with the next expansion. It might very well be Great Sea/Emerald Dream splitted. 4 zones in the Seas and 4 zones in the Dream. The Worgen relate to the Dream. The Goblins to the sea. Broken Isles, Zandalar, The Eye and Plunder Isle VS Stormrage Mountains, Verdant Fields, Emerald Forest, Eye of Ysera.
Goblins start in Kezan -> Tel Abim. Worgen in Gilneas -> Kul Tiras.

The Ivory Raptor is also back. Atleast in the files. And the Onyxia mount is so awesome.

This minor patch seems to be better then the Call of the Crusade content patch itself >.>

Also she drops a gun
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:35 AM
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Night Elf Mage and Tauren Priest perhaps?
I agree that these two quests have something to do with the next expansion. It might very well be Great Sea/Emerald Dream splitted. 4 zones in the Seas and 4 zones in the Dream. The Worgen relate to the Dream. The Goblins to the sea. Broken Isles, Zandalar, The Eye and Plunder Isle VS Stormrage Mountains, Verdant Fields, Emerald Forest, Eye of Ysera.
Goblins start in Kezan -> Tel Abim. Worgen in Gilneas -> Kul Tiras.

The Ivory Raptor is also back. Atleast in the files. And the Onyxia mount is so awesome.

This minor patch seems to be better then the Call of the Crusade content patch itself >.>

Also she drops a gun
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I thought about the priest also, it'll be more logical considering there are no paladin in the night elves, but gameplay-wise... Paladin would win to respect the balance...
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:38 AM
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I choose Priests because it makes more sense then Paladins and it creates less class imbalance. With Tauren Paladins, the Horde gets 1 more Paladin while the Alliance still has 1 Shaman. And Shamans/Paladins are "vurnuble classes".
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:39 AM
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I choose Priests because it makes more sense then Paladins and it creates less class imbalance. With Tauren Paladins, the Horde gets 1 more Paladin while the Alliance still has 1 Shaman. And Shamans/Paladins are "vurnuble classes".
Tauren priest doesnt link to the sun power druid at all.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:43 AM
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Yeah, but the "current discussion" was "What if they would add new classes basing on these quests.". And the closest thing to the tauren Sun druid would be Tauren Priests worshipping An'she.
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Troll paladins can be better.Thinking that light has answered some trolls.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:04 AM
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Hey guys!

Been a bit of a lurker on these forums, so please forgive me if this post is off-topic for any reason. I wasn't sure whether it was wise to start a new thread under the "Warcraft Lore Discussion" or not in order to discuss the significance of this to the current storyline.

Anyhow, I'm a bit puzzled by this generalized "Highborne" fellow. I mean, and unless Blizzard has opted to use a place-holder model, I thought all current Highborne were High/Blood Elves or naga. The only exception to this has been the Shen'dralar, whom have been able to retain their immortality through unorthodox (at best) means while maintaining the nocturnal cycle. So, my question becomes...is he a Shen'dralar zealot? An escapee of their society, perhaps?

Also, I wonder what this all means for the Sunwell and Quel/Kal'dorei relations.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:07 AM
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Nelf Mages would be nice, not as good as Dwarven ones.. but still nice.
As for horde, not a clue as to what could be added.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:17 AM
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Nelf Mages would be nice, not as good as Dwarven ones.. but still nice.
As for horde, not a clue as to what could be added.
Dwarves could be mages in Beta. Hell, in the original WoW manual, it lists them as a class choice.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:20 AM
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Dwarves could be mages in Beta. Hell, in the original WoW manual, it lists them as a class choice.
Hence why i want them back .
If only they could stay sober enough to master the arcane....
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:26 AM
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Hey guys!

Been a bit of a lurker on these forums, so please forgive me if this post is off-topic for any reason. I wasn't sure whether it was wise to start a new thread under the "Warcraft Lore Discussion" or not in order to discuss the significance of this to the current storyline.

Anyhow, I'm a bit puzzled by this generalized "Highborne" fellow. I mean, and unless Blizzard has opted to use a place-holder model, I thought all current Highborne were High/Blood Elves or naga. The only exception to this has been the Shen'dralar, whom have been able to retain their immortality through unorthodox (at best) means while maintaining the nocturnal cycle. So, my question becomes...is he a Shen'dralar zealot? An escapee of their society, perhaps?

Also, I wonder what this all means for the Sunwell and Quel/Kal'dorei relations.
I don't know... There was also an Highborne in Naxxramas back then for the Atiesh Questline, he looked like a night elf too.

for the other part well, High elves are still part of the alliance, and are against the blood elves

So that would still makes High elves, Nights elves and possibly Highborns in the alliance
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:32 AM
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Hey guys!

Been a bit of a lurker on these forums, so please forgive me if this post is off-topic for any reason. I wasn't sure whether it was wise to start a new thread under the "Warcraft Lore Discussion" or not in order to discuss the significance of this to the current storyline.

Anyhow, I'm a bit puzzled by this generalized "Highborne" fellow. I mean, and unless Blizzard has opted to use a place-holder model, I thought all current Highborne were High/Blood Elves or naga. The only exception to this has been the Shen'dralar, whom have been able to retain their immortality through unorthodox (at best) means while maintaining the nocturnal cycle. So, my question becomes...is he a Shen'dralar zealot? An escapee of their society, perhaps?

Also, I wonder what this all means for the Sunwell and Quel/Kal'dorei relations.
Well, the Highborne who left for Quel'Thalas were changed by the environmental conditions they encountered.

While most of the remaining Highborne are in Shen'dralar, there are some others scattered about.

Athrikus Narassin, for example, is in Darkshore; a powerful warlock.

Tarsus Kir-Moldir found his way to Dalaran and Naxxramas sometime in the past.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:36 AM
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I never really thought of Highbournes as a "subrace" of Night Elves, just a higher class (Purer, they would likely say).
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:40 AM
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Kooky idea #1: Highborne = Worgen. =O
Kooky idea #2: Highborne = Night Elf Mages, necessitating a ton of new classes for old races. Tauren Priests, Undead Paladins, Troll Warlocks. Dwarf Shamans, Gnome Hunters

Occam's Razor = 4.0 new faction. Highborne are the race which Night Elves, Naga, and Blood elves are all descended from. And ultimately responsible for the Cataclysm. Highborne will lead the charge to the heal the wound they caused thousands of years go. It's plot motivation for ocean warfare.

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Old 08-14-2009, 10:41 AM
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Kooky idea #1: Highborne = Worgen. =O
Kooky idea #2: Highborne = Night Elf Mages, necessitating a ton of new classes for old races. Tauren Priests, Undead Paladins, Troll Warlocks. Dwarf Shamans, Gnome Hunters

Occam's Razor = 4.0 new faction.
I'd be interested to see how the Highbourne could end up becoming Worgen, no doubt Blizzard could make some awesome story. Hopefully without spaceships this time though.
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